Horde Vs. Alliance (The real debate!)

**~~Marlo~~** · 10-16-2006

OK so i know here on mmowned we have a healthy mix of Ally fanboys (ME

) and horde fanboys. So i thought i would kick off the debate of "which is better!"

OK so the rules are:
DONT SAY THAT THE OPPOSITE FACTION GANKS MORE! THATS JUST RETARDED

Dont say "allys get all da FP's

/moan"

And lastly dont say "Ally's have better terrain in AV!

" Because thats wrong too!

OK so lets hear why you think your chosen faction is better!

**~~Scarmaker~~** · 10-16-2006

I personally like Ally, because they having better environments IMO... I really don't like desert --->desert-----> desert... And I love Pallys, and Blizz is really dumb for making BE pallys, becuz they basically said the BE sucked all the pally juice out of some pallys.... and why would Pallys ally them-selves with undead and vice versa?

**ShortButStrong** · 10-16-2006

Allys rock, have 3 60s on a server, but before that i found horde depressing(had a level 45 warlock), just the overall evironment

**Fishy80** · 10-16-2006

I play alliance... but if I had a chance I would switch to horde....

alliance isnt helpfull enough...and horde get better racial ability's...(especially with TBC)

not to mention I believe horde have it better in AV if they played it right...

horde get 1 free tower (stonehearth) as its so out of the way, that most alliance dont know where it is...

and a free graveyard unless half the alliance are defending it (stormpike) as horde have 4 ways to get to it (under the bridge, behind near the irondeep mine, above near alliance start cave, and the normal road) and horde attacking usually go up on that hill and snipe from their too...

horde wing commanders are more out of the way, and easier for horde to get back, not to mention that they run down the field of strife, not the road, so they basically go around everyone... whereas the alliance wing commanders go right thru the center of everyne (getting killed along the way most likley)

the spot where they summon the ice lord, is also well out of harms way in an area where people dont go unless they are TRYING to stop the ice lord from being summoned....

wheras the alliance spot to summon ivus, is right next to the damn road, where everyone is going to pass... so basically summoning ivus is out of the question, and even if you do, he kills alot slower than the ice lord...

the hordes base is set up at an up hill incline the entire time, so horde can constantly be sniping alliance while alliance have to go thru the sorta... maze if you will, to get to the RH...

alliance base they just rush right in over the bridge (our only choke point) and grab the flag, as they already took the towers half way thru the game..(because yes, its just that easy)

alliance NPC, will NOT attack the ice lord.... yet horde NPC's will take down ivus if the horde manage to kite him to their tunnel...

now please...some horde tell me how AV is alliance sided, and please be specific....

**Relz** · 10-16-2006

1. all the alliance people ive ever played with QQ
2. gnomes,dwarves, and humans are all basicly the same
3.horde pwn alli
4. horde look different not just different sizes.

**Datonking** · 10-16-2006

Horde > ally even tho Hordes envo is **** because its all red rocks and wooden towers but Horde has a story line to it and everything Alliance is bull**** in all WoW books and WC games Dwarfs were BARLEY IN IT Night elfs popped out of no where and Gnomes didnt exist besides Flying machines...Horde has been around for Ag3z and is cooler i think alliance should be substitued with The Sentinal Cenaturs,Ogres,Naga,Gnolls

**idusy-org** · 10-16-2006

Originally Posted by relz

1. all the alliance people ive ever played with QQ
2. gnomes,dwarves, and humans are all basicly the same
3.horde pwn alli
4. horde look different not just different sizes.

That was the most un-thought out arguement ive ever heard xD

**Fishy80** · 10-17-2006

Originally Posted by relz

1. all the alliance people ive ever played with QQ
2. gnomes,dwarves, and humans are all basicly the same
3.horde pwn alli
4. horde look different not just different sizes.

1. you played with crappy alliance then
2. agree
3. not true on Malorne join up and run past an alliance XD you wont last long unless its lower lvl or fighting
4. True, but trolls and female taurens are just flat out ugly

**Glynbeard** · 10-17-2006

Ally caus ... ummmm... they r just the best! (beat that explination heh)

**thestupidguy** · 10-17-2006

Horde is much better then allies

Match up me with any allie on a one on one duel and I'll win them everytime. I haven't lost a duel in months. And in a fair fight I have never seen an allie end up victorious.

Allies are cheapass players. (at least on my server). Hunter allies always have to do cheap tricks, rogues, mages, and pallies all are cheap bastards when it comes to fighting. I'm always willing to take them on in a fair fight, but allies attack with your back turn, wait till you have no mana or life, ALWAYS attack in groups against one person, or use cheap potions out the wazoo. Not to mention when I kill them even after all their cheap play, they run off and get 3 60's with no life to come defend them.

When I was lv 52 I was killed by three 60 allies who attacked me while I had just finished fighting 3 lv 55 zombies in WPL. I rezed RIGHT in the middle of them and was able to not only get away, but stay alive as they tried to chase me down. Skill-less noobs.

I do think allies have the advantage in AV. I'm really fed up with Horde players who aren't willing to listen to suggestions and follow ideas as a group. Every game where horde listened, I have won. But more often then not through cross realm bg's I'm noticing a lot of immature Horde players who don't have a clue about basic strategy. So allies might have the advantage there.

**~~Marlo~~** · 10-17-2006

you talk like Only the alliance gank

and i can safely say the exact same you just did but about the horde :P

**Gapo** · 10-17-2006

i like both factions but i can't help thinking that blizz likes horde more than alli since warcraft (just look at the fp)
and no i don't agree that horde has an advantage in BGs... on my server horde is just more organised than us :/ (it's quite sad actualy

)
and don't even remember the last time i enterd an AV that was already going on and horde WASN'T at our boss...
(i was gonna write a lot about AV but i realised it would be a bit of topic and stoped

)
and yea i don't like deserts to but i don'r really like ashanvaleand teldrasil 2 so it's kinda the same... but taurens start with mulgor (kinda like elwin forest) and next place is barrens (smothing like westfall) except westafall SUX imo :P i just can't stand the damn harvest golems

and if we look at the capital citys:
storwind - just like the cutthrout ally

ironforge - nice but hate the thing that goes all around it cos i usulay end up in it while trying to get to the ah cos of the lagg and the lava cos i have bad memorys about it

darnassus - thinks it's organised and not to big so don't have to walk around so much but since most ppl hate NEs i'll stfu

ogrimmar - imo it's waaaaay to big... i hate the wall and everthing is on fire in it
undercity - really dislike it especaly slaughterhouse or wahtever it's called - u know what i'm talking about (i'm just not that kind of person)
me and my friend once got lost and i so rofled when he typed in the lfg channel: LFG a way out

thundebluff - my favourit city cos the idea it's build in the sky and and i really like the tauren totems (taurens should be alli!!

dam you Thral for helping Caren Bloodhoff

Jaine should have done it

)
About the way chars look... i don't really like any of the horde female :/ blizz just made them so... wierd

and yea i definitly agree with the person that said that alli should have naga insted of gnomes... where in azeroth did blizz came up with gnomes!!

why did elves join alli side anyway?? they never liked humans...

**Cush** · 10-17-2006

Horde is generally better for levelling (They have alot more quests/places to train in early levels)
This is because alot more people went alliance so they decided to stack horde.

I like ally lands more though (except redridge on the 999th visit)
All in all, alliance characters in general arent as helpful but I still like it better.

**~~Scarmaker~~** · 10-17-2006

Originally Posted by Gapo