Alright Ive read every guide out there to make server public without hamachi, but it will not let me, I try to save hosts in c:\windows\system32\etc\hosts wont let me says no path, I figured it out, then I changed everything to my ip and not hamachi ip and when I start up logon server it didnt work it just went off, if any one could help me I would appreciate it! Thank you. Also my website for my server works but when I try to go to account creation for my server it only works on my comp and not on any one elses... even with hamachi on