The status of WildStar anti-cheat

[Selvyre]

So I have written myself up a dandy memory reading/writing library in c# and I can attach to WildStar 64/32bit clients and go to town reading addresses and writing, but I am a bit sceptical to open up Ollydbg, cheat engine or any other mainstream address readers and attach them to WildStar. Does anybody have any clue the status on the banhammer with using these programs or does anybody have a software they use to scan addresses with the current state of WildStar?

Any help is appreciated
Regards,
Selvyre

[Altnob]

Can you get WPE to work with wildstar? I can't.

[Jadd]

[6/06/2014 01:05:52] : they don't scan any offset in nova, they don't use GetProcAddress, no ReadProcessMemory, no manually mapped modules like warden, no VirtualQuerys, no nt apis
[6/06/2014 01:05:57] : no drivers
[6/06/2014 01:06:38] : not a single page of memory that has executable flags and isn't a regularly mapped module
[6/06/2014 01:07:19] : no shady stuff like hooks other than SetUnhandledExceptionFilter from StsConnLib

I also checked it out briefly last night, seems quite safe at the moment.

[Selvyre]

I also checked it out briefly last night, seems quite safe at the moment.

If hes not scanning offsets with nova then how the hell does he have all those features? Im guessing it works like external ESP for aimbots and stuff, but I don't get the non-inject bots and stuff any insight you can give me on that?

[Midi12]

If hes not scanning offsets with nova then how the hell does he have all those features? Im guessing it works like external ESP for aimbots and stuff, but I don't get the non-inject bots and stuff any insight you can give me on that?

I guess he means there is no part of code from Carbine that scan memory offset used by Nova ^^

[Sychotix]

I guess he means there is no part of code from Carbine that scan memory offset used by Nova ^^

Yes, this. But still be careful as they may have server sided detection still. Client-sided seems fine from what Master said though.

[eKqN]

I really doubt there is a server-sided detection. This eats so much ressources ...

[Sychotix]

I really doubt there is a server-sided detection. This eats so much ressources ...

Well, slightly. It is more likely that they keep track of some basic logging and that if enough reports are made, they will look at the log and make a decision.

[eKqN]

Well, slightly. It is more likely that they keep track of some basic logging and that if enough reports are made, they will look at the log and make a decision.

Sure, and you know how much work this is ? You can't do it manually, that means you have to develop an algorythm that can say "It's a cheater" or "It is not" and that's nearly impossible, and this is the reason why Anti-cheats are nearly always client-sided

[MrUnreal]

Sure, and you know how much work this is ? You can't do it manually, that means you have to develop an algorythm that can say "It's a cheater" or "It is not" and that's nearly impossible, and this is the reason why Anti-cheats are nearly always client-sided

Not neccesarily. Due to the fact how simple bots behave, patterns in their behaivour can be observed quite easily. Given appropriate logging and a set of players that have been reported several times or any other "flag". There is already available software that will do the hard part on analyzing it for you.

[eKqN]

Of course, but here I'm speaking about cheating (speedhack, tp) and not boting.

And I'm assuming people won't get reported because they know how to cheat.

[Sychotix]

Of course, but here I'm speaking about cheating (speedhack, tp) and not boting.

And I'm assuming people won't get reported because they know how to cheat.

Wow doesn't allow teleportation (at least not in the conventional way). You can't say there aren't ways to do it that are reasonable =P Also, Age of Conan prevented most speedhacking by rubber banding you if you moved too far too quickly.

[eKqN]

Wow did allow teleportation during years and years. Restriction is new, about 3 years ago.

Plus, it was only a DC when you did cheat or do something suspicious. No ban, no flag, nothing. Only a disconnection.

[Master674]

You seem to underestimate them. I'm sure they could ban people for teleportation fairly easy.
At the moment it just works and noone received an automated ban from it yet.

It's impossible for me to see whats on the server side. I can only kill what I can see.

[Midi12]

Sure, and you know how much work this is ? You can't do it manually, that means you have to develop an algorythm that can say "It's a cheater" or "It is not" and that's nearly impossible, and this is the reason why Anti-cheats are nearly always client-sided

FairFight has been developed in one night hu ! And no false-ban at all !