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    [Wizard] Arcane Torrent - Cascade bugged, causing heavily OP damage(?)

    As Arcane Torrent (Power Stone) is being hotfixed it appears that the developers are not aware of a much more serious issue with the Cascade rune (that a lot of high-end Wizards seem to be abusing but not talking about):

    Cascade Enemies hit by Arcane Torrent have a 12.5% chance to fire a new missile at a nearby enemy dealing 582% weapon damage as Arcane.

    The bug: the 12.5% chance applies to all sources of damage, not just Arcane Torrent.

    Here's a video demonstrating this in combination with Arcane Orb (Scorch): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxvoYVd_mBI

    Here's a video of me killing Torment V Ghom in 60 seconds without aiming at him at all for the entire fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4uWVPljbcw

    The only other damage sources present are:

    100% weapon damage/s Fire Walkers
    915% weapon damage Frost Nova / 8.8 second CD = ~100% weapon damage/s
    28% weapon damage/s Frost Armor

    That's a total of 228% weapon damage/s. My damage consists of:

    180k sheet @ 1.5 attacks/s
    +50% elite damage
    +15% arcane damage

    Thus, 228% weapon damage/s (none of it Arcane) would become:

    180k / 1.5 (attack speed) * 1.5 (elite bonus) = 180k damage/s

    Over 60 seconds this accounts for 10 million damage out of Ghom's 280 million life.

    Therefore, Arcane Torrent (Cascade) dealt 270 million damage in 60 seconds, equaling 4.5 million DPS while missing the entire time!.

    ...but what if you actually bother to keep your cursor on Ghom? It cuts the kill time in half, giving you a DPS of 9 million. That's a 50x sheet DPS increase - if we take out the 50% elite bonus and 15% arcane bonus, this is equivalent to a 2200% weapon damage skill... actually that can't be right since that'd mean by itself Cascade is 1100% weapon damage... oh well.

    I hope this is fixed soon as it's pretty depressing when you've got +50% bonus Disintegrate damage but can't even reach half of the damage of Arcane Torrent without any other modifiers.
    Since the devs seem to be unaware of this: Arcane Torrent (Cascade) is bugged and can easily double your DPS : Diablo

    The Ghom kill vid is fun! I'm stuck at work (as usual, heh...) ATM - can someone test it?

    [Wizard] Arcane Torrent - Cascade bugged, causing heavily OP damage(?)
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    Tried it out on general mobs and found my frozen orb works much better. Perhaps it would be better on single targets like ghom but I wasn't overly impressed.

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    A blue post confirmed this with an upcoming hotfix. Use while you can.

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    Just tried US server, either its fixed or i have no clue what im doing. both are completely plausible.


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    Same here, not getting any crazy damage from crit or regular damage.

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    The bug is, well was, tons of extra damage sorta coming from no where. Not necessarily high numbers, but tons of hits. So it made up for a ton of dps.

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    Did some tests last evening on EU and it was fun.
    But you need some mitigation and sustain in higher torment on groups.

    As @Phantons says

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    Dose not seem like any bug for me......about 2mil max but other skills better

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    I'd say the build is atm the highest sustained dps by far for a wizard on T6, a lot better than the Frozen orb+Electrocute build I was running before ( and pretty much 90%+ wizards are ). Yesterday I tried it and I was melting 150M HP elite packs at T6 ( trash packs dying almost instantly ) with 140k~ dps unbuffed wizard, but you need to setup some stuff to make it work, the copypasta from OP doesn't explain it very well.

    • At least you need 15-20 Arcane power on crit and some crit chance to channel it non-stop
    • Arcane skill damage% pieces increase damage by a lot
    • Temporal flux passive so you always slow 80% and you can channel without mobs getting close to you
    • If you don't want to kite, use force armor+any 2-3%lifesteal weapon so you can stand pretty much anything, since you'll be getting fully healed instantly everytime you get damage
    • Arcane Orb: Scorch and Frost Nova: Frozen Mist


    The playstyle is simple but you've to do it properly, throw 2-3 orbs, frost nova if anything get close to you ( or you go in for more dps if you feel safe ) and channel torrent as much as possible while refreshing your ground AoE for more torrent procs, the biggest the pack you fight the better, since it will increase the torrent procs.

    If you're speedfarming low Torment levels the build doesn't worth it, since frozen orb will oneshot everything, but on T6 this torrent build is crazy good.


    Edit: Just logged in again to test it, Still working on EU atm spamming 1-2m crits+dots https://i.imgur.com/Qq9sTxS.jpg
    Last edited by Aikeelu; 03-14-2014 at 11:40 AM.

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    This is being hot fixed soon:

    •Fixing an issue where the secondary missiles are triggering off damaging sources that are not Arcane Torrent*

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    doesn't seem to be anything special for me, maybe because im based more on aps. frost orb more efficient here.

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    this has eitther been fixed, or will be fixed REALLY soon. its listed in the hotfixes.

    that said, in a 4 man group with a tank, this skill kicks some serious ass. GREAT dps.


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    Just checked, fixed as of today on EU.

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