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    Scammed by GGLoader ( Ayni/EDGERTON_LEGENDARY )

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    Dispute Date : March 19 2021
    Ownedcore Profile Link/User Name : https://www.ownedcore.com/forums/mem...legendary.html ( EGERTON_LEGENDARY )
    Instant Messenger username of Accused : Discrod – Ayni#8649, Skype – wandereroblivion
    Payment Method Information : [email protected] ( Denis Kan ) Skrill

    Dispute Information :

    What is the dispute about? : Service/Software
    Value of Trade Involved : 99EUR
    Did you use a middleman : No
    Provide more information on what leads to the dispute : I am not satisfied with the quality of the goods, and the restrictions that I am not ready to put up with, so I demand a refund. I was also removed from their discord group and friends.

    Proof :

    Payments : Payments - Album on Imgur
    Messaging : Messaging - Album on Imgur

    Additional Information related to the Trade Dispute :

    I never opened disputes and did not do this, because it just did not come to this, I do not know what exactly I should write here in order to fully explain the situation. Initially, I wrote to Ayni that the product has some drawbacks that I do not like, and because of which I will not use this program. After that, I received a refusal to return the funds, he answered the same way all the time, even in our discussion on this forum, which was deleted. After my review, which I left here, he instantly removed me from friends and from his group, now I have neither this product nor money. He also cleared some of the messages, namely about his billing information, unfortunately. I have nothing more to say, I am ready to answer any questions that will help.
    Last edited by asieni; 03-19-2021 at 09:34 AM.

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    Hello asieni

    First of all, neither I nor the GGLoader employees, no one has ever scammed anyone in their entire history, we have a 100% ironclad positive reputation for that, we have been operating on the market since 2017 and most of the authoritative people know our name, including some of the users like Annaisha of the Ownedcore forum itself, so don't worry.
    I express my condolences to you in connection with your financial situation. I ask you to stop blackmails us in order to receive funds from us for various reasons you have announced.


    I want to start with the story of what is happening to this person.
    This user asieni bought combat routines from us and used them in several classes. We answered very politely and helped him with everything and solve all his incoming questions and difficulties through a remote desktop.

    Imgur: The magic of the Internet

    Time passes, then this person turns to us with a request for a refund because he does not have enough savings due to the fact that his video card is broken, also he familiarized himself with the refund policy, as he said, there is no other reason at the moment except his financial problems. There are no complaints about the product, no unsolved problems, and so on.

    Imgur: The magic of the Internet

    We offered to freeze the time of his subscription until his financial situation returns to normal, e.g. on demand. As the result, this situation returned to normal on the same day, and on the same day this person continued to fully use our service and play in a new class with new combat routine, and even after he bought the transfer to use on another class our service and one more month of our subscription, this is 24 euro his screenshot. After some time, this person turns to us with a compelling demand to refund the cost in the amount of 75 euros, this time he has a reason that he did not like/did not fit purchase as he wrote himself.

    Imgur: The magic of the Internet

    Then this person vaguely announced some of his issues. Further, I had to pull out several times asking questions to clarify the specifics of his claim, in order to either fix the issues, or give a detailed answer what is wrong with this person as a user. Most of his complaints were described vague and lacking in specificity and meaning. So I got almost 0 viable answers about that.

    Imgur: The magic of the Internet

    Imgur: The magic of the Internet
    We have a lot of users playing on those profiles that this person used, and we have not received such complaints as exactly this person. In any case, I have already written to him wherever possible detailed answers to his complaint, for example here.

    So back in the history, we again refused requested refund from this person because, as with the previous reason, this reason as well is not covered by our refund policy. And then he again asked about the refund of 75 euros, I replied that he can read the refund policy.

    https://imgur.com/xrteK3B

    It was after this message that this person began to throw dirt at us and write slander about us.

    https://imgur.com/jrP1Kau

    https://imgur.com/GZkZGuV

    https://imgur.com/mQJBr6V

    Also apparently somewhere in this time interval, this person removed me from Discord, referring to the fact that we removed him from discord and friends. Robin sent him a Discord invite at very begging, that invite was 1 day long, if you don't use the url it expires and you can't join/use it until you request a new one again.

    https://imgur.com/TGsMVPE

    I will now give one example from his complaint with our answer.

    https://imgur.com/KG46khK
    Also we will get from the past, from his second request for a refund, the issue for the claim - AddOnSkins.

    https://imgur.com/N77V8g8

    https://imgur.com/8qymxds
    Now let's go back deep to the past, at very begin, and we will find his words about that addon.

    https://imgur.com/In7iPsU
    Look at the dates, I just want to show by this how meticulously the person was looking for problems in order to come up with reasons for receiving a refund and, accordingly, as soon as this was not done, it was published on the forums incl. elitepvpers. And this person began to breed dirt in our sales threads, in the end we realized that it was a provocation or trolling who calls it whatever he wants, we understood this because as soon as you answer with a detailed answer, this person will immediately write a bunch of other vague claims, and every of his messages contains his words that he needs refund his money, this is already blackmailing us.

    http://prntscr.com/10qe5lg

    http://prntscr.com/10qe6w5

    http://prntscr.com/10qe79m
    So, here is full url to these messages
    https://www.elitepvpers.com/forum/wo...l#post38658306

    I want to draw your attention to the fact that it was 75 euros that the cost of refund was always mentioned, and in the complaint about Ownedcore this person indicated 99 euros, but in fact 75 euros was always mentioned by this person, and this person has still active account and he can use purchase with no problem, here is proof.

    https://imgur.com/oTF0IZX



    So, what do we have at the result?
    - This person has received all his purchases with all related staff and I assume he is still using it.
    - This person contacted us for the first time with a request for a refund. He was refused. At that time, the product and services were without complaints and issues as confirmed by chat logs.
    - This person contacted us for the second time with a request for a refund. He was refused. At that time, the person began to look for issues and trying to put pressure by using them to get a refund for the reason that he did not like or did not fit purchase.
    - This person contacted us for the 3th time with a request for a refund. He was refused. No reason for refund, just a question.
    - After that, this person began to throw dirt at us through each message as a review of nonsense his issues, every of his messages contains his words that he needs refund his money, this is already blackmailing us and we stopped respond.
    - After that, this person began to throw false scam reports here.

    Why not just give him back the money?
    Because this is not in line with our refund policy. Our refund policy is posted on the site and on the Ownedcore threads in accordance with the rules of the trade section. Here is https://ggloader.com/info#refund-policy. Like I already responded to this person: when you buy a pizza, eat it fully, and then say it isn't tasty and want a refund, will you be given a refund? I doubt, same here but with blackmailing on us.

    Do we have any our fault?
    No, we don't have. All purchases and services with the necessary information were provided to the buyer in full. His account is still active and he can use purchase with no problem.

    So what happened about the scam?
    Neither I nor the GGLoader employees, no one has ever scammed anyone, just here is a person really wants to get a refund and makes every effort to this through different methods and ways, mostly focused on hitting our reputation by finding issues that seem legitimate and viable to be able to talk about, but as I already answered to this person, negative reviews and blackmailing us will not affect the refund since his subject is not covered by our refund policy.
    Last edited by EGERTON_LEGENDARY; 03-19-2021 at 07:15 PM.

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    Originally Posted by EGERTON_LEGENDARY View Post
    Hello asieni

    First of all, neither I nor the GGLoader employees, no one has ever scammed anyone in their entire history, we have a 100% ironclad positive reputation for that, we have been operating on the market since 2017 and most of the authoritative people know our name, including some of the users like Annaisha of the Ownedcore forum itself, so don't worry.
    I express my condolences to you in connection with your financial situation. I ask you to stop blackmails us in order to receive funds from us for various reasons you have announced.


    I want to start with the story of what is happening to this person.
    This user asieni bought combat routines from us and used them in several classes. We answered very politely and helped him with everything and solve all his incoming questions and difficulties through a remote desktop.

    Imgur: The magic of the Internet

    Time passes, then this person turns to us with a request for a refund because he does not have enough savings due to the fact that his video card is broken, also he familiarized himself with the refund policy, as he said, there is no other reason at the moment except his financial problems. There are no complaints about the product, no unsolved problems, and so on.

    Imgur: The magic of the Internet

    We offered to freeze the time of his subscription until his financial situation returns to normal, e.g. on demand. As the result, this situation returned to normal on the same day, and on the same day this person continued to fully use our service and play in a new class with new combat routine, and even after he bought the transfer to use on another class our service and one more month of our subscription, this is 24 euro his screenshot. After some time, this person turns to us with a compelling demand to refund the cost in the amount of 75 euros, this time he has a reason that he did not like/did not fit purchase as he wrote himself.

    Imgur: The magic of the Internet

    Then this person vaguely announced some of his issues. Further, I had to pull out several times asking questions to clarify the specifics of his claim, in order to either fix the issues, or give a detailed answer what is wrong with this person as a user. Most of his complaints were described vague and lacking in specificity and meaning. So I got almost 0 viable answers about that.

    Imgur: The magic of the Internet

    Imgur: The magic of the Internet
    We have a lot of users playing on those profiles that this person used, and we have not received such complaints as exactly this person. In any case, I have already written to him wherever possible detailed answers to his complaint, for example here.

    So back in the history, we again refused requested refund from this person because, as with the previous reason, this reason as well is not covered by our refund policy. And then he again asked about the refund of 75 euros, I replied that he can read the refund policy.

    https://imgur.com/xrteK3B

    It was after this message that this person began to throw dirt at us and write slander about us.

    https://imgur.com/jrP1Kau

    https://imgur.com/GZkZGuV

    https://imgur.com/mQJBr6V

    Also apparently somewhere in this time interval, this person removed me from Discord, referring to the fact that we removed him from discord and friends. Robin sent him a Discord invite at very begging, that invite was 1 day long, if you don't use the url it expires and you can't join/use it until you request a new one again.

    https://imgur.com/TGsMVPE

    I will now give one example from his complaint with our answer.

    https://imgur.com/KG46khK
    Also we will get from the past, from his second request for a refund, the issue for the claim - AddOnSkins.

    https://imgur.com/N77V8g8

    https://imgur.com/8qymxds
    Now let's go back deep to the past, at very begin, and we will find his words about that addon.

    https://imgur.com/In7iPsU
    Look at the dates, I just want to show by this how meticulously the person was looking for problems in order to come up with reasons for receiving a refund and, accordingly, as soon as this was not done, it was published on the forums incl. elitepvpers. And this person began to breed dirt in our sales threads, in the end we realized that it was a provocation or trolling who calls it whatever he wants, we understood this because as soon as you answer with a detailed answer, this person will immediately write a bunch of other vague claims, and every of his messages contains his words that he needs refund his money, this is already blackmailing us.

    http://prntscr.com/10qe5lg

    http://prntscr.com/10qe6w5

    http://prntscr.com/10qe79m
    So, here is full url to these messages
    https://www.elitepvpers.com/forum/wo...l#post38658306

    I want to draw your attention to the fact that it was 75 euros that the cost of refund was always mentioned, and in the complaint about Ownedcore this person indicated 99 euros, but in fact 75 euros was always mentioned by this person, and this person has still active account and he can use purchase with no problem, here is proof.

    https://imgur.com/oTF0IZX



    So, what do we have at the result?
    - This person has received all his purchases with all related staff and I assume he is still using it.
    - This person contacted us for the first time with a request for a refund. He was refused. At that time, the product and services were without complaints and issues as confirmed by chat logs.
    - This person contacted us for the second time with a request for a refund. He was refused. At that time, the person began to look for issues and trying to put pressure by using them to get a refund for the reason that he did not like or did not fit purchase.
    - This person contacted us for the 3th time with a request for a refund. He was refused. No reason for refund, just a question.
    - After that, this person began to throw dirt at us through each message as a review of nonsense his issues, every of his messages contains his words that he needs refund his money, this is already blackmailing us and we stopped respond.
    - After that, this person began to throw false scam reports here.

    Why not just give him back the money?
    Because this is not in line with our refund policy. Our refund policy is posted on the site and on the Ownedcore threads in accordance with the rules of the trade section. Here is https://ggloader.com/info#refund-policy. Like I already responded to this person: when you buy a pizza, eat it fully, and then say it isn't tasty and want a refund, will you be given a refund? I doubt, same here but with blackmailing on us.

    Do we have any our fault?
    No, we don't have. All purchases and services with the necessary information were provided to the buyer in full. His account is still active and he can use purchase with no problem.

    So what happened about the scam?
    Neither I nor the GGLoader employees, no one has ever scammed anyone, just here is a person really wants to get a refund and makes every effort to this through different methods and ways, mostly focused on hitting our reputation by finding issues that seem legitimate and viable to be able to talk about, but as I already answered to this person, negative reviews and blackmailing us will not affect the refund since his subject is not covered by our refund policy.




    I ask from now on to stop insulting me personally, because I do not do this, I think my financial situation should not concern you, because we are talking about your product, also, I will ask you to provide you with proof of my blackmail, this is a good reason for you too there must be good reasons to talk about it.

    I want to start with the story of what is happening to this person.
    This user asieni bought combat routines from us and used them in several classes. We answered very politely and helped him with everything and solve all his incoming questions and difficulties through a remote desktop.

    Yes, time passed, I really turned to this person for help, my video card broke down and I did not know what the masters would tell me, either I would need to buy a new one or fix it, but as you saw, everything is fine with my video card, I don’t I understand why you wrote this, it was a request to a respectable person who would come into my position.

    No, this situation did not return to normal on the same day, the date is clearly visible in the screenshots and you can see it, I was absent for about 4-5 days. And after I asked you about which class I can play, you advised a monk - that's all.

    Do you really think that I poured dirt on you and poured dirt on you? I just wrote what happened to me while using your program, to which I received completely tough answers that pissed me off, because they were wrong. And after my messages, messages of satisfied customers immediately began to appear, a good tactic, but quite obvious.

    Well, you contradict yourself, read your whole message again and you will understand. I have not removed from the discord, have not removed you from friends, Robin is a different time interval, I think you should have looked at the dates.

    A bunch of vague statements, in fact, the fact that I have a bunch of complaints about your product does not mean that I cannot formulate them, it means that I am not satisfied with many things and I can write you again that I am not I'm satisfied that I can't use add-on libraries, I can't use Image Sharp, I'm simply not comfortable playing with your product, I don't understand why you started all this, I just shared my problem with the forum and told me what worries me ... For all this, I got removed from my friends, and some verbal abuse addressed to me, after that using your product and paying you money, desires have disappeared.

    It would be nice if users read your words that you wrote to me, maybe they will find some discrepancies in them, just like me.

    I think it doesn’t matter that I mentioned 75 EUR, but in the complaint I wrote the entire amount, unless it has anything to do with the problem itself, I did it this way because you disrespected me as a client in the first place. And it can be seen from your words, even now.

    1.Sorry, I am not using your product.
    2.If you are about the fact that I wanted to return the money, I wrote you complaints, they were.
    3.If you really think that I need to look for the reasons, after the teamweaver, you didn’t turn off some of the functions of my video card yourself, didn’t you? Why would I play with a product that is undervalued - by my subjective standards, I would rather use another.
    4.Well, a false report about fraud, at least it looks strange, because I wrote a regular review of your product as an ordinary user who has used many different other software and has the competence to compare for himself. In itself, the fact that you removed me from your friends, did not contact me in discord after all this, everything speaks about it.

    I wonder where you live, and if you don’t like the pizza, it doesn’t come back? I suppose you are narrowly looking at the problem, (I didn’t like it = it has drawbacks and claims, it goes without saying), nothing just happens.Well, again at the expense of blackmail - strange

    It is covered by the return policy, everything is covered, at least your attitude towards the client, as a maximum of insults to the client's address and accusations of blackmail and lies. Also, the fact that your product may be liked by some people, but this does not mean that everyone should like it, and if your product is good for one, then for another it may seem pretty awful. I can also say that after the deletion of our discussion, you did not even apologize or write to me. In turn, I would have done the same, but I received only accusations at my address.

    Do you really think that after all this, I want to use this product and pay you money for it? I think I would not have done this alone.

    And I certainly can show you what you originally wrote to me. - Imgur: The magic of the Internet
    Last edited by asieni; 03-20-2021 at 07:01 AM.

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    i know it's not my place. But asieni they have you dead to rights on not wanting to refund you as seen in the screenshots provided. You clearly asked them for as refund not pertaining to the service/product but a computer part. i suggest letting them freeze the time on this service/product till thus time you're able to use it again. This is just my 2 cents

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    Originally Posted by scrappyballz View Post
    i know it's not my place. But asieni they have you dead to rights on not wanting to refund you as seen in the screenshots provided. You clearly asked them for as refund not pertaining to the service/product but a computer part. i suggest letting them freeze the time on this service/product till thus time you're able to use it again. This is just my 2 cents
    I suppose you are correct that this is a computer part, but most of the programs that I have used, which are built in the same way, do not have this problem.

    They also said that it would take a long time, and this is not all by itself, not everything is a computer part, believe me, if the product would suit me, I would not return the money, because why? If you can use it to monetize and simplify the process of the game.

    I came across the fact that I could not use the libraries, because the script disables or deletes them, I also faced rotation problems (I suppose this is not really important, because they will say that the setting was not correct, although after all what to configure there , bought and into battle?) And at the expense of freezing the product, I would no longer want to run into this person.. After my recall, I was immediately removed from his group and his friends, after which it all started.

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    Hello asieni

    Originally Posted by asieni View Post
    I ask from now on to stop insulting me personally
    No one has insulted you either in the past or now, please review all messages and you will not see any insult in them.

    Originally Posted by asieni View Post
    I think my financial situation should not concern you, because we are talking about your product, also, I will ask you to provide you with proof of my blackmail, this is a good reason for you too there must be good reasons to talk about it.
    This is directly related to me because you filed this false scam complaint and many other reviews about us for the truly reason that you don't have enough funds due to a broken video card, as you told me the very first time when you asked for a refund.
    Screenshot by Lightshot
    After that, you began to suck various reasons out of your finger and by using them to pressure us began to demand refund from us in each of your messages, sorry, but no matter how pure blackmail is, I can say it this way:
    Originally Posted by EGERTON_LEGENDARY View Post
    Originally Posted by asieni View Post
    No, this situation did not return to normal on the same day, the date is clearly visible in the screenshots and you can see it, I was absent for about 4-5 days. And after I asked you about which class I can play, you advised a monk - that's all.
    https://imgur.com/undefined
    https://imgur.com/undefined
    On March 9th, your video card broke, you wrote a message late in the evening
    On March 10, it was read in the morning and replied with a proposal to freeze the subscription
    On March 10, late in the evening, you wrote your consent to freeze your subscription
    On March 11th in the morning you were answered and your subscription was frozen at your request
    On March 11, in the remaining half of the day, you wrote to us that you want to buy a transfer and use a monk, you bought a transfer and we have unfrozen your subscription
    So I can say that your situation returned to normal within the same day

    Originally Posted by asieni View Post
    Do you really think that I poured dirt on you and poured dirt on you? I just wrote what happened to me while using your program, to which I received completely tough answers that pissed me off, because they were wrong.
    I have not given you any wrong answer, please review all posts. I do not think that I gave you rude or tough answers, but on the contrary, I tried to be polite and well-mannered in my answers, despite the fact that you really drive around in a circle the same thing to which you were given the most detailed answers many times, it really exhausts and annoys the person that answering, but look, I've always been polite to you, and you write that you were also insulted..

    Originally Posted by asieni View Post
    A bunch of vague statements, in fact, the fact that I have a bunch of complaints about your product does not mean that I cannot formulate them, it means that I am not satisfied with many things and I can write you again that I am not I'm satisfied that I can't use add-on libraries, I can't use Image Sharp, I'm simply not comfortable playing with your product, I don't understand why you started all this, I just shared my problem with the forum and told me what worries me ... For all this, I got removed from my friends, and some verbal abuse addressed to me, after that using your product and paying you money, desires have disappeared.
    Just as I wrote above, you started repeating the circle in your messages:
    Originally Posted by asieni View Post
    I am not I'm satisfied that I can't use add-on libraries, I can't use Image Sharp,
    I will copy here as quote my reply:
    > 1. I cannot play with addon libraries such as (AddOnSkins ..)
    You can play with this addon as well as with ElvUi for example. We don't prohibit you from using these modifications, and technically, in event of any problems, we have implemented the appropriate functionality. However, these modifications are outside our responsibility, since we are not responsible for their development and we are not their authors, you use the 3-party addons listed above at your sole discretion.

    > 2. I cannot play with the graphics card settings. These words - I have to inform you that our policy is to meet our clients in cases of problems on our part (yes, Ayni?)
    Specifically, your video card, specifically AMD's company, has the following:
    - Automatic color mode recommended to be turned off and custom color such as gamma and contrast recommended to be default
    - Image Sharpness recommended to be turned off
    As in the case of add-ons, we don't prohibit you from using these settings, this is only our recommendation, not a restriction. I repeat that you use these settings solely at your own personal discretion. Most users don't even come close to the modifications and settings that you change on your video card; this is as far as I could tell from the remote desktop with you when looking.
    Originally Posted by asieni View Post
    I just shared my problem with the forum and told me what worries me
    Originally Posted by asieni View Post
    I came across the fact that I could not use the libraries, because the script disables or deletes them, I also faced rotation problems (I suppose this is not really important, because they will say that the setting was not correct, although after all what to configure there , bought and into battle?)
    AddOnskins started to worrying you after our refusing to refund you, look at the last screenshot, and the same with other things incl. your graphic settings and nonsense rotation problems, it goes straight through events when you needed refund and you got the first our refusal.
    Originally Posted by EGERTON_LEGENDARY View Post
    I will now give one example from his complaint with our answer.

    https://imgur.com/KG46khK
    Also we will get from the past, from his second request for a refund, the issue for the claim - AddOnSkins.

    https://imgur.com/N77V8g8

    https://imgur.com/8qymxds
    Now let's go back deep to the past, at very begin, and we will find his words about that addon.

    https://imgur.com/In7iPsU
    Originally Posted by asieni View Post
    but most of the programs that I have used, which are built in the same way, do not have this problem.
    Correct, and I answered you why, and first of all you mentioned one program - pixel bot for OW, not several programs, please do not exaggerate or belittle us as if we have something incomplete compared to others. Both WoW and Aim games use pixels in the way they interact, but they have different search and color processing technologies. In the case of your given example, this technology is most likely implemented through openGL (or a newer version of openCV) or similar graphics API, we do not use such technology well, simply because they are not needed for our tasks. The technologies I mentioned are looking for pixels in the form of objects, for example, a rectangular health bar, and there is a very wide range of colors that can overlap with each other, so such programs will work for you with your third-party modifications and settings, but this does not apply to things like ours which work with a pure fixed color, although you can still set the pixel variation as I mentioned to you earlier and you can achieve workability. I will repeat again that any third-party modifications and settings are all at your discretion and responsibility.

    Originally Posted by asieni View Post
    After my recall, I was immediately removed from his group and his friends, after which it all started.
    Neither me nor Robin removed you, you removed me from Discord after your last attempt to receive a refund from me in chat, and you claim what we removed you which is not true.

    Originally Posted by asieni View Post
    I think it doesn’t matter that I mentioned 75 EUR, but in the complaint I wrote the entire amount, unless it has anything to do with the problem itself, I did it this way because you disrespected me as a client in the first place. And it can be seen from your words, even now.
    It does matter, it's financial problem now we know for sure, 75 euros is not enough for you when you demanded, now you require 99 euros, this obviously gives the right answer. Where exactly you were not respected as a client you are not talking, obviously there is nothing to argue about. I apologize in advance if you might think so on english, because itss not my native language, I never had goals to offend you or answer rudely.

    Originally Posted by asieni View Post
    I can also say that after the deletion of our discussion, you did not even apologize or write to me. In turn, I would have done the same, but I received only accusations at my address.
    I was always polite with you and its very pity that you have not seen and do not want to see my answers, which you are running around in a circle everywhere, you just using them as pressure on me with inserting in every message that you need a refund from me for the reason what you you have financial problem/or you don't like the purchase. For example:
    https://imgur.com/kejHYmt
    and here
    Originally Posted by EGERTON_LEGENDARY View Post
    I express my condolences to you in connection with your financial situation.
    Originally Posted by asieni View Post
    It is covered by the return policy, everything is covered, at least your attitude towards the client
    You assured me that you have read our refund policy. Why then do you write an obvious untruth?
    Here is url to the refund policy, please read it, your reasons and situations, such as your financial problems/don't like purchase subject, are not covered by our refund policy, negative reviews and blackmailing us will not affect the refund for your subjects.



    I ask you not to take offense at me because I no longer intend to reply to this person on the forums, to discuss all his problems he can contact and find out directly in our chat, which he clearly does not intend to do as he said, but we do not intend to be subjected to further trolling/blackmail from him on the forums. I see that a person starts to drive the same thing around in a circle, to which you have to answer again and again, this is an endless circle, an insane amount of time is spent on it, and I do not intend to be in it, again I ask you not to be offended at me because of that, I believe, that my answers are more than enough for everything here.
    Last edited by EGERTON_LEGENDARY; 03-20-2021 at 12:45 PM.

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    Originally Posted by EGERTON_LEGENDARY View Post
    Hello asieni


    No one has insulted you either in the past or now, please review all messages and you will not see any insult in them.


    This is directly related to me because you filed this false scam complaint and many other reviews about us for the truly reason that you don't have enough funds due to a broken video card, as you told me the very first time when you asked for a refund.
    Screenshot by Lightshot
    After that, you began to suck various reasons out of your finger and by using them to pressure us began to demand refund from us in each of your messages, sorry, but no matter how pure blackmail is, I can say it this way:



    https://imgur.com/undefined
    https://imgur.com/undefined
    On March 9th, your video card broke, you wrote a message late in the evening
    On March 10, it was read in the morning and replied with a proposal to freeze the subscription
    On March 10, late in the evening, you wrote your consent to freeze your subscription
    On March 11th in the morning you were answered and your subscription was frozen at your request
    On March 11, in the remaining half of the day, you wrote to us that you want to buy a transfer and use a monk, you bought a transfer and we have unfrozen your subscription
    So I can say that your situation returned to normal within the same day


    I have not given you any wrong answer, please review all posts. I do not think that I gave you rude or tough answers, but on the contrary, I tried to be polite and well-mannered in my answers, despite the fact that you really drive around in a circle the same thing to which you were given the most detailed answers many times, it really exhausts and annoys the person that answering, but look, I've always been polite to you, and you write that you were also insulted..


    Just as I wrote above, you started repeating the circle in your messages:

    I will copy here as quote my reply:




    AddOnskins started to worrying you after our refusing to refund you, look at the last screenshot, and the same with other things incl. your graphic settings and nonsense rotation problems, it goes straight through events when you needed refund and you got the first our refusal.


    Correct, and I answered you why, and first of all you mentioned one program - pixel bot for OW, not several programs, please do not exaggerate or belittle us as if we have something incomplete compared to others. Both WoW and Aim games use pixels in the way they interact, but they have different search and color processing technologies. In the case of your given example, this technology is most likely implemented through openGL (or a newer version of openCV) or similar graphics API, we do not use such technology well, simply because they are not needed for our tasks. The technologies I mentioned are looking for pixels in the form of objects, for example, a rectangular health bar, and there is a very wide range of colors that can overlap with each other, so such programs will work for you with your third-party modifications and settings, but this does not apply to things like ours which work with a pure fixed color, although you can still set the pixel variation as I mentioned to you earlier and you can achieve workability. I will repeat again that any third-party modifications and settings are all at your discretion and responsibility.


    Neither me nor Robin removed you, you removed me from Discord after your last attempt to receive a refund from me in chat, and you claim what we removed you which is not true.


    It does matter, it's financial problem now we know for sure, 75 euros is not enough for you when you demanded, now you require 99 euros, this obviously gives the right answer. Where exactly you were not respected as a client you are not talking, obviously there is nothing to argue about. I apologize in advance if you might think so on english, because itss not my native language, I never had goals to offend you or answer rudely.


    I was always polite with you and its very pity that you have not seen and do not want to see my answers, which you are running around in a circle everywhere, you just using them as pressure on me with inserting in every message that you need a refund from me for the reason what you you have financial problem/or you don't like the purchase. For example:
    Imgur: The magic of the Internet
    and here


    You assured me that you have read our refund policy. Why then do you write an obvious untruth?
    Here is url to the refund policy, please read it, your reasons and situations, such as your financial problems/don't like purchase subject, are not covered by our refund policy, negative reviews and blackmailing us will not affect the refund for your subjects



    I ask you not to take offense at me because I no longer intend to reply to this person on the forums, to discuss all his problems he can contact and find out directly in our chat, which he clearly does not intend to do as he said, but we do not intend to be subjected to further trolling/blackmail from him on the forums. I see that a person starts to drive the same thing around in a circle, to which you have to answer again and again, this is an endless circle, an insane amount of time is spent on it, and I do not intend to be in it, again I ask you not to be offended at me because of that, I believe, that my answers are more than enough for everything here.
    Hmm, I still want to wait for the person who has to check all this. It makes no sense for me to ask you.

    And on account of the fact that everything suited me, you are generally mistaken, you can, of course, point to your reviews that began to appear after mine, although there were not many of them before, not everyone may like your product, so if take a look at the voices of some people on high-minded, then in general one can really ask such a question.


    Oh yes, the ambiguity of your messages only speaks of your incompetence in the dispute and in the conduct of all this, you say for me that I liked everything before, and talk about the theory that after I initially wanted to return the money and after of your refusal, I started looking for problems, by the way - it's funny, why then did I make transfers? And of course, didn't I write to you about addonskins, and what I need ?.

    Even what you say that it was me you, and not you who removed me from the discord and your channel, says a lot - after all, this is simply meaningless, do you understand this? And it makes no sense for me to tell you everything that is boiling, I will do it to the person who must see it all. I am at least disgusted to read all this from the person from whom I purchased the product, because some of your statements, I know how they actually happened

    Oh, and of course, if I deleted you, then why did I decide not to delete Robin, I believe that all your messages are built on lies and manipulation of words and facts that the person providing the service cannot afford it, especially with your audience. This is just disrespect for your customers, and your return policies are not valid.

    You are the whole dialogue, you cannot go into a constructive discussion, your arguments are irrational and contradict yourself, and you also deny everything that I say - I am. You deceived me, at least, that you deleted immediately after the revocation, although it hurt you? Or are you unable to accept the criticism of your customers, but can only be content with reviews, new accounts, on all platforms, but which your product is exposed to? I am dissatisfied with reviews in your address and from those who have used your product.

    Well, and proof that I still do not play with your product, you have removed me from everywhere - https://imgur.com/a/yrboM38
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    Unfortunately, asieni would not be eligible for a refund because it's clear that there was no issue with the service/product itself. You might've had financial issues or simply changed your mind which happens but that does not mean that you'll be entitled to a refund. In other words, you are simply trying to force a refund at this point and I don't see it happening.

    The refund policy is clearly stated in EGERTON_LEGENDARY's thread and we'll have to abide by it.

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