Echo takes World First Vault of the Incarnates

[Kenneth]

After just under 10 days of racing we have our victor, Echo. The World First race comes to a close but with a slightly controversial ending. Both Liquid and Echo, the two frontrunners of this race, have been on the last boss Raszageth for 5 days now and it while progression has occurred Blizzard has been doing some consistent yet large nerfs to the boss. This is likely because they wanted the boss to die for these guilds and a world first be secured before Christmas day. The controversy this time around was the last nerf that occurred this morning before Liquid was awake where they essentially added 1 minute before the enrage timer hit. Once this nerf came in Echo killed it in the first pull after many ~10% pulls. When Liquid woke up the boss was nerfed and dead. In a perfect world it would seem that this nerf would have come in a few hours later to allow both teams to race for it at the same time. Liquid ended up taking quite a bit once they started the post nerf pulls but one can argue they were probably tilted and defeated already by this point. One could also argue that Liquid knew today would be the last day they planned on pushing in the race due to Christmas so why would they not get up a bit earlier. Up until this point their sleep schedule was to sleep through any morning maintenances but still raiding 14 hours a day by staying up later, hence why this nerf which came in early was slept through.



To many who were watching it was still clear Echo was playing much more consistently on Raszageth and getting deeper, cleaner, and consistent pulls more often but even some of their own players didn't feel right with the way they won.



Clip of kill with nerd screams

[hackerlol]

So trying to understand how long it took for first World First raid boss kill in the latest WoW Expansion
Going my release date which was Nov 28th 2022... and this article was created 3 days ago or 24th December 2022, presuming there was no gating of any sort, am I right to say that it took almost a month for the world first kill Kenneth?

[Zinqa]

So trying to understand how long it took for first World First raid boss kill in the latest WoW Expansion
Going my release date which was Nov 28th 2022... and this article was created 3 days ago or 24th December 2022, presuming there was no gating of any sort, am I right to say that it took almost a month for the world first kill Kenneth?

The raid wasnt open on November 28th. The raid first opened up December 12th

[hackerlol]

Ah thanks

The raid wasnt open on November 28th. The raid first opened up December 12th

So about two weeks for world first. My memory fails me, how does this compare to the old days of WoTLK and Cata etc. for world first kills...
Are raids more or less the same difficulty or have they become more challenging?

[Zinqa]

Ah thanks

So about two weeks for world first. My memory fails me, how does this compare to the old days of WoTLK and Cata etc. for world first kills...
Are raids more or less the same difficulty or have they become more challenging?

Blizzard intended for a "decently easy" first raid of the expansion.
In comparrison "Sepulcher of the First Ones" (Last raid of Shadowlands) opened up on the 8th of March 2022 and was finished the 26th. Liquid even gave up this race and stopped raiding on the last boss of the raid while Echo completed the raid.

[hackerlol]

Thanks for the info Zinqa ^_^

Blizzard intended for a "decently easy" first raid of the expansion.
In comparrison "Sepulcher of the First Ones" (Last raid of Shadowlands) opened up on the 8th of March 2022 and was finished the 26th. Liquid even gave up this race and stopped raiding on the last boss of the raid while Echo completed the raid.

Do you remember how this compared to previous expansions first raid, where perhaps Blizzard did not intend it to be easy as such.
Gotten interested in knowing how the current blizzards casual friendly attitude compares to what we dealt with back in the day : )

[Zinqa]

Thanks for the info Zinqa ^_^

Do you remember how this compared to previous expansions first raid, where perhaps Blizzard did not intend it to be easy as such.
Gotten interested in knowing how the current blizzards casual friendly attitude compares to what we dealt with back in the day : )

Well Castle Nathria is a good example, first raid of Shadowlands, and was also released in December (2021).
Released on December 15th and completed on December 23rd, so a bit faster than this year.