Ryftomate - RIFT Bot

[IFMJohn]

Ryftomate was made way to fast. They built the bot to do what you wanted it to and do it fast and correctly but while doing it they made it VERY easy to detect that that is why there has been multiple banwaves. Do not buy ryftomate unless you want a ban.

[Hawker]

Ryftomate was made way to fast. They built the bot to do what you wanted it to and do it fast and correctly but while doing it they made it VERY easy to detect that that is why there has been multiple banwaves. Do not buy ryftomate unless you want a ban.

Thats not really fair. There are 3 big Rift bots, 2 Chinese and Ryftomate. All 3 have been targeted by Trion and all 3 have had banwaves. Currently, only Ryftomate is undetected.

[IFMJohn]

Thats not really fair. There are 3 big Rift bots, 2 Chinese and Ryftomate. All 3 have been targeted by Trion and all 3 have had banwaves. Currently, only Ryftomate is undetected.

Ryftomate isnt undetected though. Ryftomate is big because it was put together too fast. It is VERY easy to detect no matter what you say and THAT is why it has had three banwaves. It is because they rushed the project to get it out because they knew that they could earn a shitload of money from it if they got it out early even though it would get lots of bans. Ryftomate's coding needs to be COMPLETELY REWRITTEN if they want it to ever be considered a viable option for rift botting because it INJECTS into the game. Do you understand what that means? Here is a little dramatization for you: If I were to take a needle and stab you with it you would notice, it is THAT EASY for trion to notice a program that injects into the game.

[Sychotix]

Ryftomate isnt undetected though. Ryftomate is big because it was put together too fast. It is VERY easy to detect no matter what you say and THAT is why it has had three banwaves. It is because they rushed the project to get it out because they knew that they could earn a shitload of money from it if they got it out early even though it would get lots of bans. Ryftomate's coding needs to be COMPLETELY REWRITTEN if they want it to ever be considered a viable option for rift botting because it INJECTS into the game. Do you understand what that means? Here is a little dramatization for you: If I were to take a needle and stab you with it you would notice, it is THAT EASY for trion to notice a program that injects into the game.

I do not think you realize how code works. At all.

They can do many other things, besides recode the entire project, in order to make it undetectable again. I do not know how advanced Trion's anti-hack is, but you guys have a team of fairly advanced bot writers working on this. Its expected to get banwaves on a brand new game, as they could not possibly have reverse engineered the entire thing yet.

[haisenberg]

I do not think you realize how code works. At all.

They can do many other things, besides recode the entire project, in order to make it undetectable again. I do not know how advanced Trion's anti-hack is, but you guys have a team of fairly advanced bot writers working on this. Its expected to get banwaves on a brand new game, as they could not possibly have reverse engineered the entire thing yet.

Though.. you dont understand what customers want. No question about your saying but like John said we as customers would like to have more adavanced written bot. Because.. imagine... one banwave occurs.. alright... bot was taken down for maintenance. Alright... afterwards it was back online... the DEVs said "we are save" .. and hoosh second banwave.. it is like... wtf oO

I would like to be a customer again but not without my conditions met. I am aware, that DEVs may not explain the whole system because of the public forum but still it a difference by saying to a "anti-trion-cheat-detection" which wasnt done to my understanding. The most incredible thing I realized a little late that bot is using injection... first of I thought seriously!?!? Then my acc was band... my personal result: no injection bot anymore (and YES I know I can get caught by using a bot.. stop using this as an argument for whatever).

For me as customer it seems injection is like a "special force" BUT a special force on a mission which is not very silent... more like using flares running into the hotspot zone... and hoping that they will not caughted.. If I am wrong explain the 2 banwaves And please dont tell that this can happen... it is like saying that you can get caughted by driving 55 where 50 is allowed... but injection seems like driving 120 in 50 limit zone.

Hence, if I am wrong about injection and you say.. it is "save" (whatever save in that context is meant to be), my final result is.. the ryftomate bot is just bad written or anti-measures are strongly inappropriate.

[Sychotix]

I do not know how the bot works, and nor have I ever used it. However, your interpretation on injection being "like driving 120 in 50 limit zone" is not correct. Injection in WoW is fairly safe, as long as you are not editing any addresses that warden watches. [I can't say about Rift, as I don't have it] What amazes me is that the general MMO community has seen how relaxed Blizzard has been on bots, and expects it to be like that with all games. Trion is taking a more direct approach to getting rid of bots and bot users by constantly working on detection. Blizzard took the more passive route by implementing a mediocre anti-hack that is not very invasive (due to being sued... but that is beyond the point). They mostly rely on player reports, and apparently suing the creators of the bot as well.

Keeping a bot undetected is like playing a game of cat and mouse. The mouse can try its best to hide, but the cat has the advantage.

[haisenberg]

I totally agree to your saying... but then the obvious strategy should be to not use injection anymore!?!? Or what does the coding manual suggest for a situation like we got here? And as I said I am aware (even as a noob) of the fact that botting involves risk-taking on DEV vs. MMO and Player vs. MMO-anti-cheat-side... no question about that (in respect to your cat/mouse statement) but as I said then a change in strategy should may bring better results? Correct me if I am wrong. Just because.... you touch a hot cooking plate once.... not twice... (2 banwaves... *wink*).

I know a good example were anti-detection measures were taken first... and just a week or two ago questing was implemented... (unfortunately a WoW bot.. so useless for my purpose). No advertise, but I am aiming at WoW Robot. I repeat, no advertise, just name calling to state facts better... . Something like that for Ryftomate.. may the DEVs could have a talk to the developer of WoW Robot... and provide more plain facts about the bot... like it uses injection and so on... the homepage is saying nothing about it... not very customer friendly (to return that point once again)... all in all... I have to admit... the first bot which disappointed me in terms of being customer-friendly... maybe I am the only one who experienced that but... hmm...

[jungly]

Ryftomate isnt undetected though. Ryftomate is big because it was put together too fast. It is VERY easy to detect no matter what you say and THAT is why it has had three banwaves. It is because they rushed the project to get it out because they knew that they could earn a shitload of money from it if they got it out early even though it would get lots of bans. Ryftomate's coding needs to be COMPLETELY REWRITTEN if they want it to ever be considered a viable option for rift botting because it INJECTS into the game. Do you understand what that means? Here is a little dramatization for you: If I were to take a needle and stab you with it you would notice, it is THAT EASY for trion to notice a program that injects into the game.

That's like saying GLIDER, HONORBUDDY, PIROX, MMOMIMIC have never gone through banwaves? And would you call them crappy bots?

[haisenberg]

That's like saying GLIDER, HONORBUDDY, PIROX, MMOMIMIC have never gone through banwaves? And would you call them crappy bots?

Glider is a bot which I do not care at all... Injection, no option.
Ryftomate is from Honorbuddy DEVs... so bad example...
Pirox had no banwave in common sense.... only one modul (archology) was bad written... and detected.. what did they do? They have rewritten it.. now it runs perfect. Ryftomate DEVs didnt do that after the first banwave.
MMOMimic... for me.. no option as well.. never heard positive statements about this bot, so.. wayne MMOMimic.

At all... the only god bot you mentioned for me is Priox... Honorbuddy may had some good times... but my final result is DEVs gotten reckless.. until they prove otherwise.

[Hawker]

Glider is a bot which I do not care at all... Injection, no option.
Ryftomate is from Honorbuddy DEVs... so bad example...
Pirox had no banwave in common sense.... only one modul (archology) was bad written... and detected.. what did they do? They have rewritten it.. now it runs perfect. Ryftomate DEVs didnt do that after the first banwave.
MMOMimic... for me.. no option as well.. never heard positive statements about this bot, so.. wayne MMOMimic.

At all... the only god bot you mentioned for me is Priox... Honorbuddy may had some good times... but my final result is DEVs gotten reckless.. until they prove otherwise.

Ryfotmate was detected twice.
1. An in game input check. Not related to injection.
2. A process scan. Not related to injection.

What you have to accept is that Rift is a new game and Trion has the advantage of being able to hide things. In a few years time, Rift will be as well reversed as WoW is and Rift botting will be as risky as WoW botting. Until that point, its just a fact that botting Rift is not for the faint hearted.

Our current status is that we are undetected and we think we have most bases covered. We are doing a new hook just in case things change. If the fact that this is hard makes you nervous, then don't bot Rift.

[haisenberg]

Ryfotmate was detected twice.
1. An in game input check. Not related to injection.
2. A process scan. Not related to injection.

What you have to accept is that Rift is a new game and Trion has the advantage of being able to hide things. In a few years time, Rift will be as well reversed as WoW is and Rift botting will be as risky as WoW botting. Until that point, its just a fact that botting Rift is not for the faint hearted.

Our current status is that we are undetected and we think we have most bases covered. We are doing a new hook just in case things change. If the fact that this is hard makes you nervous, then don't bot Rift.

It is not about being nervous. It is the fact to know that the chance to get banned is over 80% by using Ryftomate. I do know the risks of botting as stated several times but I am not willing to buy a new account every month. In one thing you are right... RIFT is quite young... and DEVs need some time. Thats why I wait until I recognize that the whole thing is somehow 'stable'.

Up to that point Cu.

[Parrky]

As far as I'm concerned the bot is fine now and only really missing gathering routes

[haisenberg]

6 days later:

[Official] Ban/suspension-wave in progress

Thats the point I mentioned... so Hawker... tell me again I am nervous ...

[Hawker]

6 days later:

[Official] Ban/suspension-wave in progress

Thats the point I mentioned... so Hawker... tell me again I am nervous ...

Right now we don't know how the latest detection happened. If we can't find out, we will use our new hook and re-write the bot. And until we are happy we know what is happening with the Trion anti-cheat, we will not be offering Ryftomate for sale.

Making a bot for Rift is hard. If that fact makes you nervous, then don't bot Rift.

[PinkiPan]

looking for a rift bot, is this bot been fixed to make it undetectable yet