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    Learning to code, incredibly clueless.

    Hello, first of all I would like to thank anyone reading this for taking your time to care at all. This may or may not be in the wrong section, sorry in advance.

    Alright, so I've been getting into coding especially because it seems like a tool I'll use regardless of profession especially for making websites as such.

    Lately, I've been browsing around with Lua, HTML, PHP(slightly) and a multi-language coder for the iPad called Codea (previously Codify). I've looked at several lessons online over

    the past week and they seem to be somewhat effective, though I still can't seem to understand several things or they don't make sense to me. I also am not quite sure where I

    should go to learn at my level, yes I've googled and googled. So far I've visited code.org, lua.gts-stolberg.de, codeacademy.com, and lynda. I have learned some basic things but

    I really don't know how to attach all these things together or make them into a program or website. I was hoping to find someone experienced with preferably Lua or HTML so

    that I could ask questions and sort of have a go-to guy to help me make sense out of things as well as recommending places for me to go to, I really can't promise paying you

    or anything but if it all works out well you could maybe expect some profit on your side. If you're interested in helping at all, please do leave a message with your skype or

    something I can contact you through.


    Towards anyone who can answer these questions:

    1. How do you make a block of text into a program? This being how do you turn a script into a full-fledged software or program to your or somebody else's benefit?

    2. What is the best program (preferably color-coded depending on commands) you would recommend to use?

    3. What websites do you consider reliable with information for dummies to learn?


    Once again, thank you guys for reading.

    Learning to code, incredibly clueless.
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    Fisher's Avatar Banned Hook you up! CoreCoins Purchaser
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    Okay I'm gonna answer stuff in general and then give you a bit of advice.

    1. You use a compiler
    2. Sublime text but its really up to you. Sublime 2 uses efficient colors so you know when you forget to add " you can actually see most of your code won't work.
    3. w3schools is the must-read for these things (HTML/PHP) I have no idea about lua but its pretty generic, find their api and that's about it I guess.

    As for programming in general - I couldn't write 10 lines of php code by myself. What's important is you have a general idea how to make a software work. For instance:

    A client wants to login. He inputs username and password. Something should check this against some records. Okay I have username/pass in database called omginfo. So I check omginfo against what he wrote in and then I validate/dismiss his request.

    You break that sentance down even further and then once you do, you know what do. Rest is syntax, which you look up online. Simply type in "login module php" and adjust it towards your needs. I can code you virtually anything and I really couldn't type 10 lines of code on my own. Doesn't matter which software you use (I will suggest a graphical one, pascal and stuff is obsolete). Whatever app you wish to make, break it down in pieces, find snippets for those, combine them together. Eventually, pay someone to optimize it or do it yourself, anyone can see that if you have IF X then Y 10 times for 1 condition, you did something wrong.

    Hope this helped

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    W3Schools is outdated

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    Basics can't be. You have to start somewhere.

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    Okay, I'll be getting into v3schools. Thank you for the help, fisher.

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    3. What websites do you consider reliable with information for dummies to learn?
    depends on what you're willing to code, but try hack forums... with being smart enough to not fall into being a script kid.

    There are a lot of interesting overthere, you just have to look for what is cheap and what is worth reading.
    Then, w3shool is great for web languages.
    If you want to code, don't loose time on VB net.. and so.

    Start by C, c#, c++, maybe a bit of pearl and delphi.
    Python... well, why not, it's easy and quite fun.

    Be patient, don't try to code your own botnet on your own, it will be a mess.
    Try to understand the code of huge programs, such as Zeus (let you google it - zeus botnet-).... you'll spend a lot of hours in doing that, but it'll worth the look.

    Be smart, always humble, and try to have a long time vision of things.

    If you want to be web developper, understand first what is an algorithm, what's a Database, learn SQL, and learn how to hack... will be the best way to secure your own website.

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    Best editors I can recommend:
    Notepad++ For doing web coding (php, html, javascript etc.)
    Microsoft Visual Studio 2012 Express (or Ultimate if you're a student or have lots of money) For doing C++ and C#
    Eclipse Java For Java coding (not recommended, Java is a shitty language that's mostly useless for coding privately and is basically only used in corporate environments)

    All of the editors have syntax highlighting (color coding), MS Visual Studio and Eclipse even have autocomplete, integrated compilers and debuggers. I am assuming you are coding in a Windows environment.

    Hope this helps..

    If you want to you can skype me sometime, send me a PM if you want to.
    Last edited by d3rrial; 03-13-2013 at 05:27 PM.

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    Netbeans (I think it's a fork of eclipse, but I'm not sure) is also pretty good for web coding, and some coders I know prefer it over eclipse for java as well.

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    Netbeans (I think it's a fork of eclipse, but I'm not sure) is also pretty good for web coding, and some coders I know prefer it over eclipse for java as well.

    But claiming Java to be a shitty language is inaccurate imho.

    Any program developed with java will be cross-platform, for one. You will be able to use the same jar-file (thus the same code) on any operating system with native java runtimes (currently Windows, Linux, MacOS X and Solaris).
    Additionally, most cell phones support apps developed for Java ME.
    You can also develop java applets to add advanced features to your webpage.
    And tons of free APIs exist that you can use with your projects.

    It may not be suitable for developing game bots or bruteforcers, but it's far from a "shitty language".
    Last edited by gensmeta; 04-13-2013 at 07:52 AM.

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    I would suggest books. Try...
    C++ In a Nutshell (2003)
    Cryptography in C And C++ ( 2001 )
    Effective C++, 3rd Edition ( 2005 )
    The C Programming Language, 2nd Edition ( 1988 ) and others that published after this etc etc.
    Enjoy reading.

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    I'm going to jump in here and recommend Geany as a editor


    Codeacademy have some beginner courses for HTML, CSS, PHP etc if you wanna learn to code websites.

    Learn to code | Codecademy
    https://www.mmowned.com/forums/world-of-warcraft/guides/264682-achievement-onyxias-lair-level-60-3-2-2-hunter.html

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