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    Fury Warrior DPS For Dummies

    Hi. I'm Adrian. I'm a warrior. I do a billion DPS.

    First of all, you need to be fury to do fury.
    Go with this spec. For the love of god, copy it point for point.
    http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classe...000000000000000

    Do NOT go past 17 points in arms. Spec like I told you to. Don't argue with me. No, sword spec isn't worth the loss of 10% + 275 AP. Don't argue. Shut up and go with it.


    There are quite a few idiots that think fury warriors are rogues. No, you're not a rogue. What do I mean?

    DO NOT EQUIP ROMULO'S POISON VIAL OR GEM FOR HIT

    Hit is not as important to fury warriors as it is to rogues.

    You need as much hit to maintain your rotation.

    What is hit good for?
    9% (95 hit with 3/3 precision) hit is the soft cap for dual-wielding DPS. After 9% hit, your yellow attacks (which are your heroic strikes, bloodthirsts, whirlwinds, etc.) will NEVER MISS. Hit is the cheapest stat for raising DPS before 9%. After that, it becomes crap because it only increases white damage, which is about 40% of your DPS.

    Dumb?
    60% of your DPS is from yellow damage. 40% of your DPS is from white damage. Let's assume you're past 9% hit.
    1% hit will increase your DPS by 0.4%.

    That sucks. It's better to stack Strength/AP and Crit over hit because both of those increase 95% of your DPS (5% coming from deep wounds).

    Still don't get it?
    "but but but does that mean stop at 95 and don't get more +hit?"

    NO. No. no. After the soft cap, hit is merely no longer your most important stat. Ignoring it altogether will cripple your rage generation.

    "but i see all these fury warriors running around with 250 hit..."

    They either don't know what they're doing, or are in T6 quality gear that naturally includes hit. They did not go out of their way (hopefully) to stack it at the expense of other stats.

    "ok, so should i go ahead and gem for hit?"

    If you're under 95, yes. Then again, if you don't have 95 hit just from gear, you probably have no business even speccing fury for raids.

    "but you didn't tell me how much i need "

    Precisely.
    Also, if you can't reach 95 hit without gemming for it, you shouldn't be raiding as fury.

    Rage generation
    Assuming you're 0/0/0
    1% crit will give you as much rage as 1% hit over a certain amount of time.
    Crit typically offers bigger rage spikes, hit will give you the same amount of rage, but in a smaller chunk.
    However, you're 17/44
    Crit procs flurry.
    Flurry gives you haste.
    Haste gives you rage.
    Haste also increases your (white) crits per minute.
    Therefor, crit > hit if you find yourself rage starved and need to rearrange gear. Oh, and crit affects white damage after the soft cap.

    Moving on to rotations
    This is what your rotation should look like. This is with 9 second CD whirlwind. 9 seconds is divisible by the global cooldown, which is 1.5 seconds, allowing you to use BT and WW as they finish their cooldowns.
    Seconds into fight:
    0: BT
    1.5: WW
    3: Global cool down free
    6: BT
    7.5: Global cool down free
    10.5: WW
    12: BT
    13.5: Global cool down free
    15: Global cool down free
    18: BT
    19.5: WW

    Use the free GCDs to refresh buffs and debuffs.

    If threat isn't an issue (if it is, get a tank that doesn't blow ass), use heroic strike when you pass 50 or 55 rage. If you touch 100 rage, that means you're not at your maximum potential.


    What speed should my off-hand be?
    DPS > Stats > Speed
    Slower off-hands theoretically do more DPS because whirlwind hits harder. However, the difference is so small, that it all comes down to play style. Want smoother rage generation? Fast. Want (kinda) bigger numbers? Slow

    You should always have a slow main-hand


    How should I gem?
    The most accepted gem is the strength one. Str/Crit and Str/Stam if the socket bonus is good (which usually isn't)
    Your metagem should always be the Relentless Earthstorm Diamond


    Weapon enchants?
    Executioner on your mainhand. Not on your off-hand, because it doesn't stack and the supposedly longer up-time can suck at times. Mongoose on your off-hand. You can have both buffs up at the same time. You can also put potency on your off-hand, if you think you need more AP.
    Mongoose for crit
    Potency for AP
    EXECUTIONER ON YOUR MAIN HAND.

    I'd go into the mechanics of hit, expertise, strength, etc, but that takes too much time.


    Credits
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    This guide is a compilation of all widely accepted fury DPS rules.
    For more in-depth info, click the link below.
    http://www.tankspot.com/forums/damage-per-...th-edition.html
    No, I did not rip off that guide. The first section of it is all old facts from elitist jerks and very correct theorycrafting. Corbusier's real guide is his second post and beyond.

    Fury Warrior DPS For Dummies
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    Please write something on your own, this is just copy+paste from elitistjerks and tankspot with a few own words added..
    You did even leave the "dont use the posion vial.." in big fat letters.

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    And why 2 points in weapon mastery instead of execute?
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    Originally Posted by Brisi[NOR] View Post
    And why 2 points in weapon mastery instead of execute?

    Because he assumes that you are a nub without capped expertise..

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    great guide

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    Originally Posted by statsministern View Post
    Because he assumes that you are a nub without capped expertise..
    Expertise ain't the most needed stat. Mobs don't dodge to much and as long as you stay behind the target it won't parry. Misses are fixed with hit rating

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    Originally Posted by Brisi[NOR] View Post
    Expertise ain't the most needed stat. Mobs don't dodge to much and as long as you stay behind the target it won't parry. Misses are fixed with hit rating

    twocents
    Nope it aint that important that is correct.
    Still this guide is just copy+paste so probarly no point in making the threadstarter try to explain why it`s no so important
    Still capping expertise give a nice addition to your DPS.
    Anyone who have ever PVP`ed a MS warrior should know how important imp. execute is and i belive that anyone who PVE`s with a MS build want to execute as much as possible.

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    Hi, very useful guide.
    Although it didn't work out as assumed.

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    I came into this thread looking to take you down a few notches, however although this guide is copy pasted it is indeed correct. However from my understanding there have been tests proving that weapon mastery *2/2* gives a greater overall dps gain then Improved Execute *2/2*.
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    Originally Posted by jappaex View Post
    I came into this thread looking to take you down a few notches, however although this guide is copy pasted it is indeed correct. However from my understanding there have been tests proving that weapon mastery *2/2* gives a greater overall dps gain then Improved Execute *2/2*.
    In solo maybe. In raid it doesn't matter much because any melee DPS shall ALWAYS stand behind the target to avoid parries. As I said above. And some say that if a tank parries the mobs attack the damage is transfered over to the target standing next to him. That is unless you're behind the target. And any boss/mob does rarely dodge. I've tested it too and must say imp execute is better. Not by much but it is
    Last edited by Brisi[NOR]; 10-07-2008 at 05:36 AM.
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    Did you guys even read the bottom line of the topic? Is it **** ripped.

    And also it may be slightly outdated, I wrote this in June on another forum I go to.
    Last edited by Cun; 10-07-2008 at 03:52 PM.

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    Great Guide Obviously written from experience unless it was ripped from someone experienced XD [: +Rep

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