Honorbuddy lifetime no longer lifetime...

[AtomX]

Greetings Buddies,
For our long term plans, it is inevitable to do the following changes effective immediately (tomorrow - 18 January 2017). We are changing all existing Demonbuddy and Honorbuddy Lifetime licenses to expire after 2 years of usage.


Posted on their forums right at the top. Well, I'm offically looking for a new bot. That's an ******* move in my opinion. I get it, it's their choice, but if you are going to sell a lifetime account then you need to honor it. Perhaps a change in name to scambuddy?

What are your thoughts? Ideas?

Greetings Buddies,

For our long term plans, it is inevitable to do the following changes effective
immediately (tomorrow - 18 January 2017).

We are changing all existing Demonbuddy and Honorbuddy Lifetime licenses to
expire after 2 years of usage.


Over the last couple of months, we have been weighed down by legal expenses and
by low sales. The effect is simply that we are not generating enough cash to
cover its costs right now. The decision to change the lifetime keys to 2 year
keys is a very difficult decision, but right now it is the time to move forward
with it. The alternative is to stop altogether and our plans for the future
are not over yet.

Hearthbuddy - Lifetimes that have been sold between 11 October 2013 and 27 September 2016
will expire between 10 October 2015 and 26 September 2018 (bonus days not included).


Demonbuddy - Lifetimes that have been sold between 11 June 2012 and 6 June 2016
will expire between 10 June 2014 and 5 June 2018 (bonus days not included).


Honorbuddy - Lifetimes that have been sold between the year 2009 and
4 June 2016, will expire latest on 3 June 2018 (bonus days not included).

While we continue to develop Honorbuddy and Demonbuddy and continue fighting
legal battles in 3 countries, our infrastructure is being used by our beloved
Buddies since 2009 for as low as a 25 EUR one time purchase since then.

Costs are increasing, development is expensive and was made more expensive
since the 12 lawsuits in Germany, where Blizzard tries to abuse anything they
can get hands on, by starting multiple lawsuits on yearly basis.

Adding this all up, you can see our income is limited to old one time
purchases, and while it was a good business decision back in 2009, it has
stopped being viable for us since 2014. The decision however, to move forward,
was taken now, in 2017.

We regret, if you think that this might be unfair to you, the users. But a
business only can carry on as long as the business can afford paying its daily
costs, and a big amount of that daily costs are actually the infrastructure,
the development and the legal expenses.

And on the subject of legal expenses, I am happy to announce, that the Federal
Court of Justice of Germany has decided on 11th Janury this year, that WOW can
be (performing acts necessary to observe, study or test the functioning of the
program, provided that these acts do not infringe the copyright in that
program) reverse engineered, as long as it is just for the program code and as
long no audio-visual elements are shown while analyzing the code. As the
audio-visual elements are not part of a computer program but part of the
computer game and are copyright protected elements without a exclusion of
rights.

This however is just the beginning, more cases are waiting at the Federal Court
of Justice of Germany and the High Court of England and Wales.

Now as final words, we hope you stay with us and contribute again to our work,
if you think that it is unfair you can always contact us on
[email protected] and share your perspective.

For the very few users that probably would want bulk sessions, meaning 10 or
more sessions to be paid at once, you can also contact us via email, we will
try to answer every email asap.

Wish you all the health and prosperity for 2017.

The Buddy Team Bossland & Hawker

The post can be found here. Important Change for Honorbuddy, Demonbuddy and HearthBuddy Lifetime Users

[Harambeqt]

Yea super, because Honorbuddy has been so good lately...

[AtomX]

Good or not, I don't think it's legal. Without ending all support for the software and killing it, or selling it to a different company, there's no way to do this that I know of. I see this being the end of Bossland honestly. They are about to open a huge can of worms that don't operate in the gray area that they are used to fighting bliz in. This is black and white.

[Harambeqt]

Sellouts to evade lawsuits? I don't know.
If you can run 10-20 instances and bot for 3-6 months and sell all the gold and items you acquire I guess it's still the bot to buy.
And then you do it all over on new accounts.

But if you work and have a life and don't have as much time to play but still want to keep up with the game, stay away from HB
I got banned in 2015 on my personal account and since then Honorbuddy has been detected as far as i know.

[AtomX]

Sellouts to evade lawsuits? I don't know.
If you can run 10-20 instances and bot for 3-6 months and sell all the gold and items you acquire I guess it's still the bot to buy.
And then you do it all over on new accounts.

But if you work and have a life and don't have as much time to play but still want to keep up with the game, stay away from HB
I got banned in 2015 on my personal account and since then Honorbuddy has been detected as far as i know.

I guess I'm the lucky one then, I've yet to get a single ban since the days of WoW!Sharp (pre wow/mmoglider days) and I've never done it for selling gold, just to level and farm for myself and friends. But this is a bullshit move IMHO Their reason behind this farse is to get money to fight legal battles well... I have a feeling they just invited people all over the world to bring more legal issues their way.

[deathboy00]

They did the same thing with their buddywing bot last year or 2 years ago.
but they changed our lifetime keys with 1 year keys and we had to buy new ones after that year expired.


the way their doing it now looks like a quick cash in scam.
Notify today, close all the keys in 24h. Sell as many new keys as fast as possible and close the firm soon after

[AtomX]

They did the same thing with their buddywing bot last year or 2 years ago.
but they changed our lifetime keys with 1 year keys and we had to buy new ones after that year expired.


the way their doing it now looks like a quick cash in scam.
Notify today, close all the keys in 24h. Sell as many new keys as fast as possible and close the firm soon after

Closed or not, they will still be liable for lawsuits if they make this move before discontinuing the products effected (DB and HB)

[deathboy00]

right, who will sue them for some keys? A regular botter with a few keys won't.
And the botters with 20-100 won't sue them to avoid explaining and justifying the income that came from using those keys.

[AtomX]

right, who will sue them for some keys? A regular botter with a few keys won't.
And the botters with 20-100 won't sue them to avoid explaining and justifying the income that came from using those keys.

They don't need to justify anything, it's a simple case of breach of contract. And the second someone does everyone will jump on that gravy train. 1 key or 100 once it's started all they have to do is list your name on the suit. Using the software isn't illegal in any way shape or form, And honestly I would say 90% of the players that bot do it for fun anymore, so if you can make money off of this why not right? (playing devils advocate here btw)

[skeletonboy360]

I never figured out how to get a lifetime key. Is that not the same as my 10 year key? If it expires then I'll just use the free HB

[AtomX]

I never figured out how to get a lifetime key. Is that not the same as my 10 year key? If it expires then I'll just use the free HB

Lifetime shows 3600 days, but if you bought it over 2 years ago you lose access tomorrow.

[skeletonboy360]

Lifetime shows 3600 days, but if you bought it over 2 years ago you lose access tomorrow.

What the hell. **** I bought mine in 2012. I was really excited to be using it all the way until 2021 honestly. That'd be cool as shit just to see.

[AtomX]

2022* But yeah, they don't give a shit about their user base, looks like anyone willing to step up in the vacuum of them going awol on everybody and being general douchebags is in line to make tons of cash.

[gavzter2012]

I love you bossland

[AtomX]

i still see no Legionbuddy advertisement on those posts


i see Buddy staff answering on support questions

Wait wouldn't it say "honorbuddy-forum/honorbuddy-support" if they were support questions?


Yet they don't say that, and when you yourself say

LB is on Alpha beta phase,atm you can participate only if you own a Legendarybuddy key

From you that's as good as advertisement isn't it?


And then here...

Legionbuddy is not released yet. Only legendary Buddy members have access to an alpha version at the moment.

From another mod...


And let's not forget the FAQ in the general section...

Q. Do we have to be Legendary Buddies to access?
A. No. Access is currently limited to Legendary Buddies for the alpha testing phase.

So I would hazard to say there is plenty of advertisement, some of which you posted! But at this point I guess none of us should be surprised After your track history with your other bots this one will be a dumpster baby soon enough.

Can we put these guys under the scam section please? They have just ripped off thousands of users many of which probably had more than a few keys each.

I also implore all U.S. users to report them here Reporting international scams | Consumer Information let's let the government handle this! They wanted to piss off a game company. Let's see how they do against a country.