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    Thanks I didn't know this method! Can you get banned for this?

    Using the same raid lockout Every Week to farm rare mounts! No Second Account Needed!
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    No. .....................

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    Originally Posted by w4rl0 View Post
    Thanks I didn't know this method! Can you get banned for this?

    It's more like a guide, than a exploit.
    So you don't get banned for this.

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    Just tried this today and I did something wrong

    I cleared raid instance before boss (11/12 ICC heroic) with my druid and then formed the group like in the guide here. Everything is fine so far. My alt killed the boss and left instance (no mount). When I tried to enter raid instance with my druid again it said: "12/12 bosses killed, do you want to enter".

    What did I do wrong here?

    My druid stayed in the group but was offline. Should I've dispanded the group before killing the boss? If you do that I think you'll get a warning that you are not in a group anymore and you'll be teleported out.

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    I can almost guarantee they fixed this but need more confirmation.

    Not fixed, I just did it wrong.

    1. Ran druid through DS25H 7/8, went to garrison and made the group as usual.
    2. Applied on hunter, accepted, and entered into the raid accepting the 7/8 lockout.
    3. Killed Madness, left group, garrison hearth
    4. Logged into druid and disbanded the group, made a new one
    5. When I tried using the EXACT SAME steps as I have previously on my rogue, it gave the 8/8 notification when I entered.

    Now the ****y part:

    My druid is officially listed as 7/8 Heroic in DS in the personal raid info in the friends tab (Madness of Deathwing = AVAILABLE). When I enter DS on my own it prompts me to accept a lockout that's 8/8. It appears lockouts are no longer tied to the premade group ID, but rather the premade group creator's id, even if they are offline, in a different zone / realm, and not the group lead. Trolling potential anybody? Join any group and go kill Marrowgar on ICC10N and you just wasted the group creators chance at invincible for the week.

    Edit:

    This is even weirder than I thought. I decided to test it even further, and it seems that it 'binds' the premade creator and the one running it together.

    1. Druid made premade in garrison, logged out and had the rogue join (in garrison as well)
    2. Rogue becomes group lead over a period of time due to logged out druid
    3. Rogue kills Moroes in Karazhan, leaves party, and goes outside the instance
    4. Druid logs in, de-lists group, flies to Karazhan, and is prompted to accept a 1/11 lockout
    5. Druid accepts the lockout, and kills Attumen the Huntsman
    6. Rogue goes back to Karazhan and is presented with a 2/11 lockout (does not accept, leaves)

    Continued:

    7. Druid creates another premade with Hunter / Warlock
    8. Hunter become group lead, premade is still up, other 2 offline in garrisons
    9. Hunter goes to black temple, kills first boss
    10. Leaves raid, delists premade, resets instances
    11. Kills second boss
    12. Leaves raid, resets instances, kicks both players (neither will be in a group)
    13. Kills third boss

    Result: Warlock 0/13, Druid 0/13

    Strange and completely erratic for me, but what it seems like is if anyone in the same continent enters a raid it starts the lockout for the rest of the group. Needs further testing.
    Last edited by Malzel; 02-06-2016 at 10:06 PM.

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    If someone else can comment on the status of this it would be great. I am currently not subscribed to check. It would be quite sad if it is true as this has been a very long running trick.

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    Ok I just tested it and it's still working

    What i did is:

    1. Logged to the alt with all the saves ( IDs )
    2. Extended raids for this week
    3. Made a raid group
    4. Logged to character im farming mounts with and applied to group.... to not go into details im in group now
    5. Went to ICC, set to 25 ( I was leader at that point ), entered and switch to HC
    6. Killed LK, left group, teleported to Garrison
    7. Wen back to alt with IDs, reseted the instances and made a new raid, went to next character, applied and got invited
    8. Went to ICC ( became leader, changed to raid and 25 )
    9. Entered in ICC and it was 11/12
    Last edited by markons; 02-03-2016 at 08:13 AM.

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    Originally Posted by Malzel View Post
    I can almost guarantee they fixed this but need more confirmation.

    1. Ran druid through DS25H 7/8, went to garrison and made the group as usual.
    2. Applied on hunter, accepted, and entered into the raid accepting the 7/8 lockout.
    3. Killed Madness, left group, garrison hearth
    4. Logged into druid and disbanded the group, made a new one
    5. When I tried using the EXACT SAME steps as I have previously on my rogue, it gave the 8/8 notification when I entered.

    Now the ****y part:

    My druid is officially listed as 7/8 Heroic in DS in the personal raid info in the friends tab (Madness of Deathwing = AVAILABLE). When I enter DS on my own it prompts me to accept a lockout that's 8/8. It appears lockouts are no longer tied to the premade group ID, but rather the premade group creator's id, even if they are offline, in a different zone / realm, and not the group lead. Trolling potential anybody? Join any group and go kill Marrowgar on ICC10N and you just wasted the group creators chance at invincible for the week.

    Edit:

    This is even weirder than I thought. I decided to test it even further, and it seems that it 'binds' the premade creator and the one running it together.

    1. Druid made premade in garrison, logged out and had the rogue join (in garrison as well)
    2. Rogue becomes group lead over a period of time due to logged out druid
    3. Rogue kills Moroes in Karazhan, leaves party, and goes outside the instance
    4. Druid logs in, de-lists group, flies to Karazhan, and is prompted to accept a 1/11 lockout
    5. Druid accepts the lockout, and kills Attumen the Huntsman
    6. Rogue goes back to Karazhan and is presented with a 2/11 lockout (does not accept, leaves)

    Continued:

    7. Druid creates another premade with Hunter / Warlock
    8. Hunter become group lead, premade is still up, other 2 offline in garrisons
    9. Hunter goes to black temple, kills first boss
    10. Leaves raid, delists premade, resets instances
    11. Kills second boss
    12. Leaves raid, resets instances, kicks both players (neither will be in a group)
    13. Kills third boss

    Result: Warlock 0/13, Druid 0/13

    Strange and completely erratic for me, but what it seems like is if anyone in the same continent enters a raid it starts the lockout for the rest of the group. Needs further testing.
    I can confirm this is still working. Just tried on my brother's account... First, going down the list. In DS, the reason it didn't work is this method does not work with HEROIC DS. It has to be Normal DS or the saves don't work right due to the way DS does its saves (there is a trick to still do heroic Madness with normal clear from another thread). Also, when it comes to the raid ID in your attempts in Kara, you need to reset raid and start with a completely new instance of a raid. You will still get prompted to join the raid lockout appropriately, but be aware that once you clear one toon, a new raid needs to be made.

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    Originally Posted by TonDeli View Post
    Just tried this today and I did something wrong

    I cleared raid instance before boss (11/12 ICC heroic)

    Originally Posted by Malzel View Post
    I can almost guarantee they fixed this but need more confirmation.

    1. Ran druid through DS25H 7/8, went to garrison and made the group as usual.
    It isn't fixed, you just need to create the Raid ID with a normal mode save, not heroic. Heroic lockouts are unique and cannot be done more than once.

    If you make a normal mode lockout and switch to heroic on the alt you want to kill it with, it creates a new heroic lockout just for that alt.

    Originally Posted by Sklug View Post
    If someone else can comment on the status of this it would be great. I am currently not subscribed to check. It would be quite sad if it is true as this has been a very long running trick.
    It still works, people just don't seem to understand how the trick works.
    Last edited by DeathComesForU; 02-04-2016 at 02:39 AM.

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    Yeah pretty much. They can't fix this without removing personal raid saves and the auto join feature of group finder.

    Anything in tbc acts like a hc save for some reason, so that's his problem with kara.

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    For DS you can clear 7/8 on heroic if you want, but you MUST create a group with the non saved character and then sign up with the 7/8 character. Also you need to have it set on normal before using the hc macro. As I've explained here

    Originally Posted by Grosmi7 View Post
    Here's a mini DS heroic guide if you want to farm Deathwing

    1. Clear 7/8 (normal or HC it shouldn't matter)
    2. Log the character you want to kill Deathwing with and open a group in premade with auto-invite (I suggest Questing area so CRA addon doesn't bug you)
    3. Log the character with Deathwing save and join the group
    4. Log back on the character that you wish to kill Deathwing with and turn off auto-invite (again optional)
    5. Make sure you have it set to 10/25 NORMAL before zoning in
    6. Talk to Thrall until you have confirm window up and use one of the two macros

    25HC

    /click StaticPopup1Button1
    /run SetLegacyRaidDifficultyID(DIFFICULTY_RAID25_HEROIC)

    10HC

    /click StaticPopup1Button1
    /run SetLegacyRaidDifficultyID(DIFFICULTY_RAID10_HEROIC)

    I personally use 10hc for undergeared characters makes it faster and easier, 25 hc for geared ones.

    Repeat 2-6 process until you have the mounts

    All credits go to the OP and this thread http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/worl...reg-modes.html (Heroic deathwing w/ all prior reg modes)
    He who strikes terror in others is himself continually in fear. - Claudius Claudianus

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    Forgot to mention - macro will not work 100% of the time, sometimes thrall will despawn and nothing will happen, sometimes you will change to hc but get ported to the entrance - in cases like this you can either

    1) clear Deathwing on normal (chance for Blazing Drake)
    2) wait 30minutes for soft instance reset (be outside the instance) and try again

    Macro will work 95% of the time but in rare occasions it can bug up.

    Hope this clears it up for all the Deathwing farmers, good luck and happy farming!
    He who strikes terror in others is himself continually in fear. - Claudius Claudianus

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    its easy... only thing u have to do..

    1. one char is only for giving the id to your alts
    2. lets clear for example ICC25 but not LK...^^ on NORMAL
    3 get out of instance
    4 start a grp in tool and logut to ur other char u want to kill for mount
    5 que to ur selfmade grp in tool
    6 logout to the char with id and accept ur alt
    7 login your alt for bosskill
    8 ran into ICC and accept NORMAL25 ID
    9 wait ~2min to get automatic grp lead and set to HEROIC
    10 kill

    all other raids working fine without wait for lead to set other difficulty


    only mount which is left with this method is blazing drake.. all others i get in 6 weeks.. maybe a bit luck..

    did it with 13 alts a week
    Last edited by milzbube; 02-04-2016 at 04:17 PM.

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    Thanks for sharing !

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    Originally Posted by milzbube View Post
    its easy... only thing u have to do..
    1. one char is only for giving the id to your alts
    2. lets clear for example ICC25 but not LK...^^ on NORMAL
    3 get out of instance
    4 start a grp in tool and logut to ur other char u want to kill for mount
    5 que to ur selfmade grp in tool
    6 logout to the char with id and accept ur alt
    7 login your alt for bosskill
    8 ran into ICC and accept NORMAL25 ID
    9 wait ~2min to get automatic grp lead and set to HEROIC
    10 kill
    I did exactly like this one but it doesn't work for me.

    - Clear ICC as 25 normal up to Lich King and heart back to my garrison
    - Start group --> log out
    - Join group with alt --> log out
    - Accept alt -- log out
    - Accept group join and enter ICC

    I don't get any accept lock down window at this point. It just shows full ICC25 heroic for me at this point. My alt is not group leader at this point and my main's raid setup is still 25man normal.

    At one point with another alt I managed to get lock down window to show up (no idea why). I accepted the lock down. Waited my alt to become group leader inside the ICC. Tried to change raid to heroic but it just changed to 10man heroic.

    I really have no idea what the hell I am doing wrong.

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