Scammer

[Sillychell]

Scammer

Ownedcore Name:hokage12000
Skype Name: Mackar.karyten or draintreyn
Paypal Name: Unknown
Other payment method: In-game

Ownedcore scam link:

Other sites scam link:

Did you use a middleman?: Yes

Explain what happened: A toon on Stormrage - Alliance named Virlaa was advertising the sale of arena, CM and SoOH carries. I inquired with this user as to the amount, they indicated 120k for an SoO carry and gave me this users name. I contacted him, he agreed to the price. I indicated that I would need to buy some more gold and would be ready by the end of the day. When I contacted him and ask him why his price was so cheap he indicated that it was because he was doing a lot of volume and could keep the costs much lower. He gave me a toon in game to contact and give the gold to and indicated the raid would start within 30mins.

He promptly removed me as a contact and then refused to chat with me after about 30mins of waiting.

He gave me a Gmail account and that account matches his user name on this site and it is also associated to his Skype accounts. I was able to locate this user on Google+ and contacted him there, he did not respond. I found him on Facebook and contacted him there and he did not respond. I've notified all of his friends and family on both Facebook and Google+ that he is involved in scamming people.

Proof:
This is a cut/paste of the Skype conversation and I would be more than willing to provide screen shots to prove that I have not altered any of the dialog.




Mackar karyten (mackar.karyten)
‎9‎:‎17‎ ‎AM Hello Mackar karyten, I'd like to add you as a contact.





Mackar karyten
Contact request accepted


‎9‎:‎18‎ ‎AM Hello there! Which carrying service are you interested in? 2s/3s/5s/RBG/Challenge Mode/Garrosh Kill Reg/Heroic/Gametime?‏







me
‎9‎:‎18‎ ‎AM hi‏


so you said around 120k for an SoO 14/14h carry with loot?‏







Mackar karyten
‎9‎:‎19‎ ‎AM You talked to our ingame recruiter?‏


Full Arena Cap= 25k
75 Wins RBG Mount= 75k
2200 2s/3s/5s/RBG= 75k
2400 2s/3s/5s/RBG= 100k
Glad 2s/3s/5s=150k
Challenge Mode Gold 9/9= 75k
Garrosh Kill = 85k
H Garrosh Kill = 140k
SoO=85k
HSoO=140k‏







me
‎9‎:‎19‎ ‎AM yep on Stormrage‏







Mackar karyten
‎9‎:‎19‎ ‎AM Those are the normal prices.‏


Ok.‏


It is normally 140k, but since you were recruited and told 120k, we can do 120k.‏







me
‎9‎:‎20‎ ‎AM And that includes loot specific for my class that I bring?‏







Mackar karyten
‎9‎:‎21‎ ‎AM Yes.‏







me
‎9‎:‎21‎ ‎AM When can I schedule this and would you consider actual cash?‏







Mackar karyten
‎9‎:‎22‎ ‎AM We do not take cash. We only take gold. Sadly, we agree to the rules of the game ‏







me
‎9‎:‎22‎ ‎AM That's totally fine‏


‎9‎:‎23‎ ‎AM When can we schedule this carry for my warrior?‏







Mackar karyten
‎9‎:‎23‎ ‎AM Next run is in 25 minutes, although we run most of the time towards the night/evening everyday‏


‎9‎:‎24‎ ‎AM Here is how our service works.‏


Our Service Process:
1. Customer Selects Carry
2. Payment:
Pilot: Full Upfront
Non-Pilot: Half Upfront Half in middle rating/raid or Full upfront.
3. Payment Confirmation
4. Customer is promoted to Teammates
5. Teammates discuss what customer needs to do in carry.
6. Carry begins 2-4 hours.‏







me
‎9‎:‎24‎ ‎AM I'm gonna have to order the gold, I don't have that much right not but I'm placing an order so it'll be probably 3-5hrs‏







Mackar karyten
‎9‎:‎24‎ ‎AM Ok!‏







me
‎9‎:‎25‎ ‎AM why so cheap on a 14/14h carry?‏


I ask because it seems like so many are charging huge sums still for heroic carries‏







Mackar karyten
‎9‎:‎25‎ ‎AM It is not cheap. Many people overprice their carries because of the item reserves. We make a 40% proifit margin while we got more customers, but they make around 300% profit.‏







me
‎9‎:‎26‎ ‎AM cheaper but still a good profit margin means more revenue in the long run because of referrals and such- I see‏


‎9‎:‎27‎ ‎AM well if this is legit then I can tell you that I will recommend you guys and I will probably buy 3 or 4 over the next two weeks‏







Mackar karyten
‎9‎:‎28‎ ‎AM Alright, well, we are one most of the times, but if you cannot find us, my personal email is [email protected] Contact me there if you need me when I am away. As for now, your run is scheduled for tomorrow I guess?‏







me
‎9‎:‎28‎ ‎AM Perfect, I will contact you as soon as I have the gold and we'll go from there‏







Mackar karyten
‎9‎:‎29‎ ‎AM Ok! Have a good one! Talk to you later ‏







me
‎7‎:‎25‎ ‎PM hey are you there?‏







Mackar karyten
‎7‎:‎25‎ ‎PM Yes, sir.‏







me
‎7‎:‎25‎ ‎PM sir? lol‏







Mackar karyten
‎7‎:‎25‎ ‎PM mam*‏


hehe sorry‏







me
‎7‎:‎25‎ ‎PM OK, I have 115k of the 120k they owe me an additional 25k and I should have that in a few hours‏


‎7‎:‎26‎ ‎PM So I wanna get this setup and get ready‏







Mackar karyten
‎7‎:‎26‎ ‎PM Ok. No problem.‏


Take your time. We are running all night.‏







me
‎7‎:‎26‎ ‎PM OK, soooo I have an authenticator on my account‏


And I dunno how to take it off for an auto-pilot‏


er not auto‏


‎7‎:‎27‎ ‎PM is it easier for you guys to run the account?‏







Mackar karyten
‎7‎:‎27‎ ‎PM Actually, no. It does not make a difference, mam. Our team does most of the carrying, so you will kind of just have to follow us, but it would make a small benefit of a help to dps/heal hehe./‏


‎7‎:‎28‎ ‎PM We dont need your account, unless you really don't feel like playing through it. It is up to you, mam.‏







me
‎7‎:‎28‎ ‎PM I know all the fights through Siege on heroic so if you don't mind my driving I'll drive‏







Mackar karyten
‎7‎:‎31‎ ‎PM It's cool!‏







me
‎9‎:‎10‎ ‎PM k I got the gold!!‏







Mackar karyten
‎9‎:‎13‎ ‎PM Ok!‏


‎9‎:‎15‎ ‎PM
If you are ready to pay, head to the Human Starting Area and let me know when you arrive there.‏







me
‎9‎:‎24‎ ‎PM ok on my way‏


‎9‎:‎26‎ ‎PM ok I'm there‏







Mackar karyten
‎9‎:‎26‎ ‎PM Ok one sec.‏


‎9‎:‎28‎ ‎PM Ok.‏


‎9‎:‎29‎ ‎PM Find deroleth, open trade, put in payment, press trade, take screenshot, and let me know when you are done.‏


‎9‎:‎30‎ ‎PM Btw, do not whisper in game, nor do not invite to party.‏







me
‎9‎:‎30‎ ‎PM oh I already did lol‏







Mackar karyten
‎9‎:‎30‎ ‎PM Our transaction guy said you did.‏


Its ok.‏


‎9‎:‎31‎ ‎PM Just forward the trade, it is fine.‏







me
‎9‎:‎31‎ ‎PM sorry I didn't look at my second monitor until after I'd whispered‏







Mackar karyten
‎9‎:‎31‎ ‎PM It's ok.‏


Did you finish payment?‏







me
‎9‎:‎31‎ ‎PM yes‏







Mackar karyten
‎9‎:‎32‎ ‎PM Ok. Payment confirmation is on its way‏

me
‎9‎:‎36‎ ‎PM did it get confirmed?‏


Mackar karyten
‎9‎:‎36‎ ‎PM 1 min.‏


‎9‎:‎37‎ ‎PM Ok Payment confirmed.‏


We will have you invited to our team in about 5-10 mins. The group starts their run in 25 minutes. You are in no rush.‏


me
‎9‎:‎37‎ ‎PM Nope, I have all night long‏


Plenty of coffee and snacks‏


Just to confirm something‏


‎9‎:‎38‎ ‎PM And I apologize for harping on this because I got scammed once and ended up having to report it to Blizzard‏


How is the loot done?‏







Mackar karyten
‎9‎:‎39‎ ‎PM The class loot is given to your class, mam.‏


me
‎9‎:‎40‎ ‎PM k‏


‎9‎:‎44‎ ‎PM do you need my btag?‏


‎10‎:‎03‎ ‎PM hey I thought this was going to start? what's the hold up‏


‎10‎:‎07‎ ‎PM hello?‏


Mackar karyten (mackar.karyten)
‎10‎:‎07‎ ‎PM Hello Mackar karyten, I'd like to add you as a contact.







me
‎10‎:‎14‎ ‎PM HEY‏


What's the deal‏


‎10‎:‎37‎ ‎PM Hey why are you screwing me over?‏


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‎10‎:‎39‎ ‎PM call, no answer


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‎10‎:‎39‎ ‎PM call, no answer


me
‎10‎:‎40‎ ‎PM fdsf‏


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Mackar karyten (mackar.karyten)
‎10‎:‎40‎ ‎PM Hello Mackar karyten, I'd like to add you as a contact.


me
‎10‎:‎43‎ ‎PM Oh and you're on Facebook too‏


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‎10‎:‎44‎ ‎PM call, no answer


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‎10‎:‎46‎ ‎PM call, no answer


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‎10‎:‎51‎ ‎PM call, no answer







me
‎10‎:‎54‎ ‎PM Why are you stealing from me?‏


I don't get that‏


Do you like enjoy stealing from people?‏


‎10‎:‎55‎ ‎PM I can't believe you stole over a 100 bucks worth of gold from me‏


wtf kind of person are you anyway‏


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‎10‎:‎58‎ ‎PM call, no answer


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‎11‎:‎09‎ ‎PM call, no answer

me
‎11‎:‎13‎ ‎PM Your in-game friend Ya on Stormrage says that he knows you.. I am reporting you and he both for the scam‏

[Dante]

Good work mate. As he actually has been on this very page and still not made any posts defending himself, I'll take it for granted that he's a scammer. Sorry for your loss!